New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
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#2I used to be skeptical of the skeptics, thought they were paranoid to worry about 'big tech' snooping and tracking our lives. Turns out it is not big tech but 'big govt' that I should've been worried about. We are in danger of turning into a surveillance state
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#3I used to be skeptical of the skeptics, thought they were paranoid to worry about 'big tech' snooping and tracking our lives. Turns out it is not big tech but 'big govt' that I should've been worried about. We are in danger of turning into a surveillance state
Damn, even most of what we know is already a decade old information. I wouldn’t be surprised if the intelligence agencies had much more crazy new projects going on the last few years.
I also suspect there will be a point in the future where they’ll break encryption and we won’t find out until years later.. they already started looking into building a quantum computer in 2014, and I’d bet it’s not necessarily for morally acceptable research.
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#4When it came out that government was looking at all of the data on the internet, there was a massive effort to move to https. Everyone got involved.
Why can't these same companies and organizations push for phones to be anonymous?
Why should a 'phone' be primarily a person tracker that happens to have voice communications built in?
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#5I used to be skeptical of the skeptics, thought they were paranoid to worry about 'big tech' snooping and tracking our lives. Turns out it is not big tech but 'big govt' that I should've been worried about. We are in danger of turning into a surveillance state
Damn, even most of what we know is already a decade old information. I wouldn’t be surprised if the intelligence agencies had much more crazy new projects going on the last few years. I also suspect there will be a point in the future where they’ll break encryption and we won’t find out until years later.. they already started looking into building a quantum computer in 2014, and I’d bet it’s not necessarily for mora…
>I wouldn’t be surprised if the intelligence agencies had much more crazy new projects going on the last few years.
except this isn't even from "the intelligence agencies", it's from data brokers:
>The bulk of the data that CBP obtained came from its contract with Venntel, a location data broker that aggregates and sells information quietly siphoned from smartphone apps
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#6I used to be skeptical of the skeptics, thought they were paranoid to worry about 'big tech' snooping and tracking our lives. Turns out it is not big tech but 'big govt' that I should've been worried about. We are in danger of turning into a surveillance state
Damn, even most of what we know is already a decade old information. I wouldn’t be surprised if the intelligence agencies had much more crazy new projects going on the last few years. I also suspect there will be a point in the future where they’ll break encryption and we won’t find out until years later.. they already started looking into building a quantum computer in 2014, and I’d bet it’s not necessarily for mora…
> I wouldn’t be surprised if the intelligence agencies had much more crazy new projects going on the last few years.
You mean like flying surveillance helicopters with really, really nice gear in them over major cities for days/weeks?
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Damn, even most of what we know is already a decade old information. I wouldn’t be surprised if the intelligence agencies had much more crazy new projects going on the last few years. I also suspect there will be a point in the future where they’ll break encryption and we won’t find out until years later.. they already started looking into building a quantum computer in 2014, and I’d bet it’s not necessarily for mora…
> I wouldn’t be surprised if the intelligence agencies had much more crazy new projects going on the last few years. You mean like flying surveillance helicopters with really, really nice gear in them over major cities for days/weeks?
s/helicopters/planes
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#8I used to be skeptical of the skeptics, thought they were paranoid to worry about 'big tech' snooping and tracking our lives. Turns out it is not big tech but 'big govt' that I should've been worried about. We are in danger of turning into a surveillance state
One thing I’d love to know is whether there is an upside and if so how much.
How many kidnapping victims get found or violent plots foiled by this tech vs old school police work?
Of course I suspect this info would be hard to get. Authorities would likely cook the books to make these things look more valuable than they really are.
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#9I wonder why are we so complacent with these kind of things? Is it really just the fact that we got our bellies full, and live in climate-controlled homes? Or has there been some degeneration of the human body brought upon us with all kinds of new artificial materials we use, that might affect our bodies in ways we can't yet comprehend; or is it a psychological thing based on the results of technological achievements we consume?
Looking back at some of the European revolutions, it doesn't seem like so much is missing to cause an urge to revolt in people. So what is different? Why do we repeatedly allow this to happen?
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#10I used to be skeptical of the skeptics, thought they were paranoid to worry about 'big tech' snooping and tracking our lives. Turns out it is not big tech but 'big govt' that I should've been worried about. We are in danger of turning into a surveillance state
We are a surveillance state. We(geeks) all made a fuss over it about 20 years ago and no one seemed to care so here we are. Every so often someone new realizes it, freaks out, and not much changes. I wish I weren't so cynical but at some point I just got tired of losing sleep over it.