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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by mrguyorama »

logic_beats_pro wrote: post #254
moistly wrote: post #75

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>which produces a spike protein for a short time that your body then reacts against It was claimed previously to be 48 hours. That always seemed extremely suspicious to me as the shot is permanently altering your immune system. What would make it suddenly stop producing spike protein? And finally this study came out: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9 They found the spike protein persists in the…

When I got my first shot, I was interested in the half life of the mRNA, because I understand how mRNA works and the concept of "how long is the spike protein being made vs how long I feel adverse effects from the shot" amused me.

I got my first shot in April 2021. What I found at the time was that manufacturers mostly did not provide that info, or when they did, it was vaguely given (usually described as "a couple weeks"). There are a multitude of potential reasons: They didn't know (unlikely), the PR people asked didn't know, it was different for different shot brands, it is probably variable person to person, and the most important one in my opinion, they were aware that it was a stupidly politicized issue and didn't feel that the specific info of "how long" would be useful to the community and un-useful to the vaccine skeptic community, and were very confident that an mRNA based solution would be 100% degraded "eventually" just because of how cells work.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by baremetal »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #160
baremetal wrote: post #152

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>I would advise a balance between weightlifting, moderate cardio, lots of sunlight exposure for Vitamin D and testosterone support, and a balanced diet. That is exactly what I do, and I never get sick.

He was the same. Covid kicked his ass though.

i work out 6 hours a day. in my occupation.

hearing unhealthy people threaten me with disease just doesn't carry water.

also i dont go anywhere except back and forth from jobsite to house, i dont interact with many people, and i live in a rural area.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by iratewizard »

Zigurd wrote: post #233
iratewizard wrote: post #184

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You call it a scare tactic because you believe in medical interventionism. I respectfully point out one of the massive numbers of unexpected side effects of medical interventions.

Believe what you like. A thoughtfully considered medical intervention rescued my health. While patients need to be vigilant for errors and the best treatment is sometimes a matter of good fortune. there is no such things as "belief" in "medical interventionism." It makes as much sense as "weather forecastism" or "speed limitism."

Maybe you should understand what medical interventionism means, before typing out a meaningless and unrelated argument.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by iratewizard »

dktokyo wrote: post #243
iratewizard wrote: post #184

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You call it a scare tactic because you believe in medical interventionism. I respectfully point out one of the massive numbers of unexpected side effects of medical interventions.

So if you break your arm…

... you go to a doctor to have it set and casted. Unless the break is so minor that you can self-treat with RICE. You don't have to be a passive recipient of a medical treatment flowchart.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by dang »

OrangeMonkey wrote: post #109
PKop wrote: post #15

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Not taken the vax if your health and age profile didn't merit it, given the unknown unknowns and lack of long term testing, which many people highlighted endlessly for the past year or so. Public concessions exactly to your point that long term testing takes time , and assertions to the contrary that tere are no risks of x, y, z were blatant sophistry intended to silence legitimate criticism. These vaccines were mand…

I work in healthcare and life sciences, I am vaxed, and I can say I fully believe you are correct. I have to attest and show my vax cards to keep my job or get a new one and - of all things - we had to show vax cards to go to a behind the scene animal encounter at a zoo. Does the vaccinne stop us from catching it or from giving it to others? There is no evidence, yet, that it does. Am I having to weasel word my post…

We ban accounts for breaking the site guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), not for being wrong or having a minority or contrarian view. If you present your contrarian view in a substantive, respectful, curious way and avoid flamewar tropes, you should be fine.

That's not easy, though. The temptation to lash out at users representing the majority view is really high (edit: especially when one notices them posting aggressively or with lazy arguments, which is always easy to do when speaking for a majority view). It looks to me like you're succumbing to that a bit—though not so much that we would moderate or ban you.

It's a hard problem. When people feel surrounded and picked on (and may be surrounded and picked on), they have a tendency to lose it (I'm not talking about you here) and go into fulmination, wake-up-sheeple rants, and so on. Then we moderate or ban them, because protecting the container is more important than rightness or wrongness on $topic. Inevitably they conclude that we banned them because of their views, which is usually not so. (I say 'usually' because nothing is 100% true about moderation and because there exist genuinely extreme cases, which have to be handled differently.)

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by dang »

moistly wrote: post #173
OrangeMonkey wrote: post #156

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With all due respect, I am not attempting to be rude with you and it would be nice to be afforded the same courtesy. As bluntly as I can say it - it will be years before we have peer reviewed studies published that detail the effect (or lack thereof) of the vaccines on pregnancy. It is an unknown and to pretend otherwise is dishonest. What we do know, though, is the outcomes of people who have covid stratified by age…

With all due respect, you invited the eye roll. There is simply no plausible way for the virus to be less harmful to the population, or even just the ‘having a child’ subpopulation, than the vaccine.

Please omit swipes and flamebait from your comments here. They break the site guidelines, and they also discredit what you're arguing for, which is really bad if you happen to be right. You can make your substantive points without any of that.

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Post by dang »

mlyle wrote: post #227
busymom0 wrote: post #196

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You missed the radio button on page 3 which lets you see the test positivity rates based on vax status too. There too, the vaxxed and boosted score worst: https://i.imgur.com/m7qihub.png Please explain why does your data seem to be an entire outlier from Ontario, Alberta, Scotland, UK and Denmark data? You also haven't explained how that Lancet study for UK has been disputed. Nor have you explained how a highly vaxxe…

> You missed the radio button on page 3 which lets you see the test positivity rates based on vax status too. There too, the vaxxed and boosted score worst: Again, --- any high school statistics students should know why that rate can be, and is completely decoupled from the actual case rate (non-uniform selection bias-- which is obviously present because the size of the strata doesn't equal their base rates in the po…

Please don't stoop to flamewar or personal attack, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Flamewar comments like this one and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32139001 are definitely not ok. Not only is this against the site guidelines, it has the side effect of discrediting your position, which is really bad if you happen to be right.

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Post by dang »

mlyle wrote: post #230
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It's common for people to feel like there must be brigading when downvotes etc. show up quickly, but a much simpler explanation is that this stuff happens all the time on divisive topics, with no coordination required.

It's also perfectly common for downvoted posts to get upvoted back to positive, as other readers come in. It's actually to be expected for unfairly downvoted posts, since readers will give corrective upvotes regardless of whether they agree or disagree.

If you break the site guidelines, though—which unfortunately you did in this thread, repeatedly—you're going to get downvoted and flagged regardless of whether people agree/disagree or your underlying view is right/wrong.

Of course it's very frustrating to see lots of wrong views, or views you feel are wrong, getting expressed in threads like this. But the site guidelines require all commenters to metabolize that frustration and to remain thoughtful and respectful and substantive in their comments, regardless of how right they are or feel you are.

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Post by dang »

busymom0 wrote: post #214
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Please do not perpetuate flamewars on Hacker News, no matter how wrong other people are or you feel they are.

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by dang »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #205
busymom0 wrote: post #197

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I have taken more vaccines than vast majority of the population due to my immigration status. Just because someone is criticizing the pros and cons of a medicine doesn't make them anti-vax. You are engaging in an ad hominem attack without knowing anything about me.

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You broke the site guidelines repeatedly in this thread. We ban accounts that do that, regardless of how right they are or how wrong other people are or you feel they are. Following the site guidelines is more important, because the survival of the entire forum depends on that. We've also had to warn you repeatedly about this in the past, so it doesn't have just to do with this topic.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

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