FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes • Hacker News Board

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

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Post by kragen » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

Jistern wrote: post #497

kragen wrote: post #19

Ultimately companies that abdicate their informatics operations like this will give their profits to their data-center operators, who will be empowered to charge them whatever price they want. Because what's their BATNA? Migrating from Azure to AWS when Microsoft doesn't want to let them? Renting your information infrastructure is a great way to reduce startup costs, but down the road, that information infrastructure…

Your reasoning is faulty and very probably self-serving. More and more companies can and will outsource their infrastructure. IT guys hate this because it threatens their "paychecks." The optimal amount of cloud services for an established company like FedEx is 100%, not merely with a "disaster recovery plan" but with live, 99.99% redundancy by which I mean two almost exact systems running nearly simultaneously (with…

It is surely true that I have a cognitive bias in the direction you say, and that many companies operate at lower levels of informatics infrastructure reliability than Azure.

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

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Post by RandomWorker » Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 6:37 PM UTC

greedo wrote: post #399

RandomWorker wrote: post #216

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right now, they can't retain the people or afford the people to do this work. When you can go work elsewhere for more money you move. And, running a main frame isn't just having it, it's keeping the people running it, plus paying for the electricity and space. Depending where, the real-estate and energy prices are nuts in most places. And, the engineers are expensive right now, and the services are cheaper. It's not…

"retention of existing engineers impossible" So where are all these mainframe engineers going to go work? Our company has 3 admins for our two mainframes, and these guys while expert level admins for a mainframe, have trouble with Linux and Windows. Same with the developers writing code for the systems. When all you've worked on is a mainframe, then everything looks like a batch cycle...

Retiring?

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

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Post by bhewes » Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 6:05 PM UTC

smn1234 wrote: post #553

bhewes wrote: post #395

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At least in Oil and Gas. Servers moved back into the personal towers for the first time in a decade. Latency issues.

AWS Outposts ?

Ah did not know about AWS outposts. They use Azure so hybrid setup and moved the latency sensitive servers back into the tower everything else lives on Azure.