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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Aardwolf »

tjoff wrote: post #646
Aardwolf wrote: post #617

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not ordered for me, any tab could be anywhere and many tabs can exist for many contexts from different moments of time that can be relevant again at any future time. How do you get the magical ability to have the tabs in the exact order you need them and have to go in only one direction?

Because that's how you open them. Which is the relevant context you need. As soon as you have to search for anything the MRU is poisoned beyond sense and you have to start all over again.

> Because that's how you open them. Which is the relevant context you need.

Opening multiple tabs from one place, and then going through them exactly in that order, is just not something that happens often for me.

> As soon as you have to search for anything the MRU is poisoned beyond sense and you have to start all over again.

Not at all. Imagine you were reading some document in some tab. This tab could be in any window, on any workspace.

Now you check your email in-between, which is another tab in another window.

Now after checking your email, you want to go back to the document you were reading: try finding it back amongst all windows across all desktops, possibly not anymore the front tab because you also just opened a link from the document, or instinctively opened the discord tab of the window the document was in or paused some youtube music that was playing, or whatever!

MRU solves that perfectly. We're talking about 100s of tabs across multiple windows here. With MRU you only have to go through maybe max 10 or so, which is easy to find the document back in.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by raxxorraxor »

kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

> Good/extensible keybindings

Really wondering why this is so neglected in all browsers. I know quite a few users that like to accidentally press CTRL + T when trying to write a capital T after sitting 2h on a site to put in some info.

It is good that browsers grow more sceptical of sites capturing hotkeys, but some sites really benefit from the question if you really want to leave that page. As far as I know this is the only long-term supported solution. Restoring tab might work but not on all sites.

  two leading spaces changes text to code formatting
  perhaps lines are closer together here.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by gorhill »

ssl232 wrote: post #110
endorphine wrote: post #18

Without Firefox and a few extensions like uBlock Origin, Decentraleyes and Privacy Badger, I feel like I'm naked when browsing the web. Also, check out Firefox Focus on Android. Pretty convenient to use as the default browser for guest browsing.

You don't actually need Decentraleyes or Privacy Badger now that Firefox has total cookie protection and that uBlock Origin supports their other features (some via lists). Arkenfox has a useful write-up on this: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions . I only have four extensions now: uBlock Origin, I Don't Care About Cookies, one for user agent switching, and one for removing HTML elements via the c…

> one for removing HTML elements via the context menu

Isn't this equivalent to the element zapper in uBO?[1] It's not available from the context menu but you can assign a shortcut to bring it up.[2]

[1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Element-zapper

[2] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Keyboard-shortcuts

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by hmry »

michaelcampbell wrote: post #627
haunter wrote: post #13

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Total opposite experience. At least under Windows Chromium is perfectly fine with 150-200 tabs but FF starts falling apart

With that many tabs I can't get either to work well, tbh. OTOH, FF has an _apparent_ speed advantage for me in that it crashes pretty regularly so I'm not having to worry about memory leaks. =\

Same here, I also get frequent crashes on FF. In the past it used to crash when selecting text with the mouse, but since the latest update that seems to have been fixed. Now it tends to crash when drag&dropping things instead.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by zh3 »

kovac wrote: post #556
zh3 wrote: post #213

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On linux, just create a separate login and use Chrome there. In fact, what I do is create a separate user, start Chrome once, do any configuration I want and then create a tarball of the separate user's home directory. Then to start a fresh it's just a wipe of the whole directory and unpack the tarball again. It's fast enough to just run Chrome in a loop, and on each exit wipe and unpack the original state again. I c…

Or you can just use Firefox.

I used to do this on Firefox, it's where I learnt the trick (before some sites made it necessary to use Chrome, and before Firefox had containers).

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by fsflover »

kdnvk wrote: post #542
spartanatreyu wrote: post #540

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Then you would have only spent an hour over the year for the security of not possibly losing your livelihood.

The chance of losing your account is so low that the overall expected value is still not worth it for most people.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31782952

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by avinassh »

zahma wrote: post #291

Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

Multiple profiles, so that I can keep personal and work related stuff separately. Firefox has containers, but it’s not really a first class support baked into the browser. For example, I use OneTab extension which lets you suspend tabs to save memory. This doesn’t work well unless you have profiles support.

Even with containers, when I suspend a tab, when I unsuspend I would want it in the same tab group

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by [deleted] »

rkangel wrote: post #79
aetherspawn wrote: post #3

I’m a Firefox user but I’m not sure that I can agree that it’s lighter than Google Chrome. I think Chrome is generally faster at everything. Chrome is also more stable. For some reason my Firefox randomly freezes once or twice a month and gets stuck in a crashing loop where only a reboot will fix it. But on principle I use Firefox whenever possible. I appreciate the effort that went into it. Still have to use Chrome…

This is what keeps me away from Firefox. I gave it a try for 3 months a little while back but it was so much slower than Chrome for general browsing. Maybe I'm due another try.

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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Moru »

anotheryou wrote: post #645
Moru wrote: post #457

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Am I doing something wrong? Every time I try to move something into a group, it just gets deselected and I have to select them again and then sometimes it works to move into a group.

you select (how this works depends on your settings, I do shift or ctrl + click), right click, group. but most useful is the auto-grouping of child tabs anyways

Yes, making groups was easy but moving tabs to groups only works every other time I do it. Very strange.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by siegecraft »

spurgu wrote: post #384
Jenk wrote: post #287

I used Firefox in the early-mid 00s, switched to Chrome not long after launch, after my colleagues showed me how much slicker is was than a now fairly heavy Firefox (at the time.) Then evil Google emerges, Chrome got fat, FF trimmed up and went privacy-as-a-default, and I'm back on FF again for the better part of the last decade. Opera had a look-in around 2008 but it didn't last long, although some of the features w…

I'd switch to Firefox in a heartbeat if I could somehow focus the URL bar with Cmd+D instead of Cmd+L (years of muscle memory with Alt+D on Linux previously). Other browsers have a menu entry for this (File -> Open Location... in Chrome) so keyboard shortcuts can be switched in the Keyboard settings but Firefox doesn't have this. :| I've tried various methods without success. If anyone had a working solution I'd be v…

You can do this with karabiner-elements (https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/) by remapping cmd-l to cmd-d. I believe you can even add a condition to make the mapping only active in firefox, but I haven't tested that.

Here is a rule that does it (only for left command, but that's probably sufficient): https://genesy.github.io/karabiner-complex-rules-generator/#...

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