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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by SixDouble5321 »

wooque wrote: post #116

I tried to like Firefox, I really do, I tried to use it as primary browser, but it's just noticeable less snappy and slower than anything Chromium based, so I always return back to Chromium (now Brave). Not to mention that I always hit some glitches in sites or some things not working in Firefox because developers didn't even bother to test on Firefox or just plainly refuse to support it.

Imagine if speed or color was your only concern for your car.

Choosing a feature like speed which is arbitrary and relative seems overly reductive.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by truth_seeker »

kahnclusions wrote: post #45

I've switched from Firefox to Safari for most of my browsing, and Chrome for anything that needs devtools. Why? Battery. Efficiency. On the new M1 Macbooks I can run Safari and be unplugged all day long. The increased power consumption and battery drain is noticeable when using FF and I can't make it all the way through the day. As far as extensions go, I have 1Blocker and it works well, it does block YouTube ads. Th…

Exactly my experience too !

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by tjoff »

Aardwolf wrote: post #400
tjoff wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

alt+tab is a very different operation. ctrl+tab cycling to the next tab is essential for many ways of surfing the web. For instance, research a topic and tap up many tabs. Now go through them one by one. And in the process of doing so you might want to tab up even more. At this point cycling to the next tab becomes a way to navigate the history, but where you have the context of each step preserved. MRU in this conte…

But ctrl+pgdn already goes to next tab, so ctrl+tab doesn't need to do that same thing, MRU is what multi-document programs (like text editors with multiple open files, IDE's) usually do for ctrl+tab. And this for good reason: this allows to cycle through the most recent documents the easiest, following usage patterns. This usage pattern also applies to browsers (and as said, ctrl+pgup/pgdn already do prev/next tab f…

ctrl+pgdn is a two-handed operation, doa. The use-case for a browser and IDEs etc. is vastly different.

>finding back your tab amongst the many open ones is a nightmare without some form of easily accessed recently used list that also works across windows

not at all, they are ordered and you already know the direction you want to go. Unlike MRU that breaks down completely after a few tabs.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by the_gipsy »

koonsolo wrote: post #272
the_gipsy wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The low usage is a fair point, but "all the issues this browser causes" simply isn't true. You would say the same about chrome if you developed for Firefox first.

Having updates breaking stuff is still a different beast.

I thought Chrome leans strong on the "move fast, break things" side.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

I'm typing this from a desktop Firefox on PostmarketOS in Poco F1 smartphone, I love it.

Especially since I have to rely upon the browser for most 3rd party services due to the lack of a proper Linux client.

But running Firefox on Linux mobile has largely been a community effort, I wish Mozilla realizes the need-gap and invests in official Linux smartphone version.

But I'm actively moving away from 3rd party extensions in FF as I found a recommended extension promoting anti-vaccine agenda[1], The only extensions I use now are ub & Multi-account containers. I would prefer if FF integrated them by default and thorough reviews for recommended extensions.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210924045611/https://github.co...

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by bazhand »

heavyset_go wrote: post #371
mbrubeck wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a longtime Mozilla contributor, so I’m probably biased toward Firefox, but there are still a few Chrome features that I wish Firefox had, like: - Easier to create and use multiple profiles (somewhat mitigated by Mozilla's multi-container add-on) - Google Translate integration

There's a profile switcher extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switc...

Which requires Homebrew and additional configuration.

While it works kinda OK, Profiles switching is such a core element to using a browser for Work & Personal use. Chrome makes this simple.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Aardwolf »

tjoff wrote: post #613
Aardwolf wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But ctrl+pgdn already goes to next tab, so ctrl+tab doesn't need to do that same thing, MRU is what multi-document programs (like text editors with multiple open files, IDE's) usually do for ctrl+tab. And this for good reason: this allows to cycle through the most recent documents the easiest, following usage patterns. This usage pattern also applies to browsers (and as said, ctrl+pgup/pgdn already do prev/next tab f…

ctrl+pgdn is a two-handed operation, doa. The use-case for a browser and IDEs etc. is vastly different. > finding back your tab amongst the many open ones is a nightmare without some form of easily accessed recently used list that also works across windows not at all, they are ordered and you already know the direction you want to go. Unlike MRU that breaks down completely after a few tabs.

They're not ordered for me, any tab could be anywhere and many tabs can exist for many contexts from different moments of time that can be relevant again at any future time. How do you get the magical ability to have the tabs in the exact order you need them and have to go in only one direction?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by yellowapple »

Tree Style Tabs alone is enough for me to always install Firefox and never consider another browser. No, merely having a vertical tab bar ain't enough (though that's itself infinitely better than boneheadedly squeezing as many tabs as possible in a single horizontal row like a fucking maniac); the actual tree is critical for staying organized while deep in some investigation.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by yellowapple »

dmytrish wrote: post #46
kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... , also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

> I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden.

That's possible by editing userChrome.css. I don't remember the exact incantations, but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in TST's docs and/or settings page.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by yellowapple »

appletrotter wrote: post #259
dmytrish wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... , also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

Is there a way to make TST look nicer? I’m sure a lot of people appreciate its UI, but it really stands out to me in a negative way.

It looks nice enough to me on both Linux and Windows. If you're on macOS, though, then yeah, I feel your pain.
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