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I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Microsoft had a huge hit with VSCode. They like Blink/chromium.

Can you explain that for those not familiar with VSCode?

Visual Studio Code is built on Electionjs like Microsoft Teams. Electionjs is built on the chromium rendering engine.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I’m a Firefox user but I’m not sure that I can agree that it’s lighter than Google Chrome. I think Chrome is generally faster at everything. Chrome is also more stable. For some reason my Firefox randomly freezes once or twice a month and gets stuck in a crashing loop where only a reboot will fix it. But on principle I use Firefox whenever possible. I appreciate the effort that went into it. Still have to use Chrome…

> For some reason my Firefox randomly freezes once or twice a month and gets stuck in a crashing loop where only a reboot will fix it.

My Chrome does that every other day on Linux. It has been that way for the last year or two. I can get around a full restart and loss of tabs by killing some GPU renderer processes.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I'm on Windows 10 with FF right now and Alt+D just worked for me, along with Cmd+L and F6 as other have said. I think your muscle memory should be just fine. Time to switch!

Time to switch to Windows? :o Edit: I moved off Windows around 2005 followed by a decade of Linux and since then Mac.

Oh haha I assumed windows since you said you used to be on linux, and Mac doesn't have an Alt key! My mistake. Well at the very least it seems there are FF plugins that allow you to modify shortcuts, so you could probably rebind Option+D to the same control as Cmd+L/F6 and that might work.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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My favorite part about Safari is how, because I don't own an Apple device, I have next to no options for testing and fixing the issues that get filed with regards to my web application not working in Safari. Probably 2/3rds of the bugs I get are specifically related to Safari while the other 1/3rd are just general issues that affect every browser. It's insane to me that they provide no way to possibly resolve this wi…

This comes up every time and I have to point out that Apple provides Linux builds of WebKit. => https://WebKit.org/downloads They’re not marketed as “Safari” because Safari is part of macOS, but it’s an official build of the same rendering engine.

There's also WinCairo for Windows. https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BuildingCairoOnWindows

But unfortunately they don't provide binaries, so you have to build from source.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

> Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I log into Chrome with my Gmail account and my browsing history+passwords are carried across all the devices I use in a typical week, Windows, Mac, iPhone. This is huge, as I rely on history a lot. My last 3 jobs also had Google-based accounts, which means I'm able to maintain two browser contexts where I don't dirty up my personal history w…

I do the opposite. Always wipe all history whenever browser is closed, never sync anything, and never prompt to store passwords. I find it much more manageable.

Passwords go in the password manager.

Instead of history I use tagged bookmarks or a notes file (obsidian.md) with actual notes about why I wanted to save that link.

If I actually ever want to sync anything between work and home PC or to/from my phone (rare), it's an explicit choice to plug into USB and drag it over, or intentionally put it in dropbox. Not just something that just randomly implicitly happens or sometimes doesn't.

But different strokes for different folks.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Chrome browser crashed my old laptop so I had to find an alternative, at the beginning I was sick of the Firefox's interface but quickly adjusted to it, and now I am pretty okay with it for everything.

PS: Firefox indeed has a lot of good plugins (for some reasons, only Firefox got them)

Yeah, it is good to get the job done.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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It seems strange to compare an open source engine to the IE era. IE sucked because it stagnated technically, the engine isn't the issue with Chrome, it's the business incentives of Google that are at odds with some of the things users want in the browser as a product or service.

Why wouldn't chrome stagnate technically when there is no competition? Developing it isn't exactly cheap, and manager with looming quarterly reportsb is very likely to make a sensible decision and defund the project, leaving a few developers to fix some critical bugs. No?

There are a lot of companies and a lot of managers interested in keeping Chromium/Blink+V8 developed (Google, Microsoft, any big name using Node/Electron, other Chromium based browsers like Vivaldi, Brave, and Opera) so it's pretty hard for the Chromium project to just get defunded and stagnate outright like happened with closed source single developer IE. Google is by far the most active of the group but they are also the ones paying Safari, a browser with While I agree it'd be better if we lived in a world there were 5 separate major browser engines all neck and neck using 5 separate huge sources of funding I also agree the Chromium based browser monoculture doesn't feel or function like the IE monopoly did. If anything I've almost wondered if e.g. Mozilla's resources would be better spent being another Chromium based build that insures development of functionality Google refuses to maintain (like proper blocking APIs) instead of trying to compete 1:1 on every line of code.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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It's not feature complete.

What features are incomplete?

Manifest V3 (The browser plugin API) severely hampers uBlock Origin's abilities to block as many things as it can.

I think the first heads-up version to the public only allowed 10,000 origins to be blocked, meaning that advertisers would only need to purchase 10,001 domains and they would be able to send ads to users again.

It's been a point of sour discussion with the chrome web team for years. They've tried to adjust it to make it more palatable with the public but advertising is just too important for Google to implement the API that users want.

Google has gone so far as to use its resources to silently take control over the web to ensure that ads remain, first with AMP based web pages, and then with FLoC advertisements. Now they've replaced that with Topics but many are eyeing that very cautiously.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Yikes. What if they ban your Google account? They have no customer support to speak of.

What if they don't and I spent time micromanging my computer for nothing?

Then you would have only spent an hour over the year for the security of not possibly losing your livelihood.
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