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Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by manwe150 »

throwaway406382 wrote: post #69
in_cahoots wrote: post #9

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

From a throwaway because of the potential backlash...This paper is pure bull. They did a survey of 30k people and asked them about their experience and then said that the vaccine didn't cause anything and that we should trust our institutions. They didn't even have a control (unvaccinated) group! Just 30k vaccinated folks who responded to a survey about whether they perceived more/less bleeding, and such. I'm actuall…

How bad is it for health? This paper also notes that the virus itself is of great concern foremost, so any conclusion must be in comparison to the alternative (aka the control group): “Studies and anecdotal reports are already demonstrating that menstrual function may be disrupted long term [by the virus], particularly in those with long COVID (32–35)”

It seems so many commenters here miss that sentence, and live in a mental world where viruses are mostly benign but healthcare is mostly deadly.

Therefore, a statistical control group for such a trial as you describe doing is not an unvaccinated cohort for the same time period, but rather for infinite time. Thus your results will require substantial adjustment for the eventual rates of encountering COVID (and the estimated rates of equivalent adverse effects), since your trial will presumably be of finite duration.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #43
in_cahoots wrote: post #9

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

Many people had concerns about the vaccine rollout. Not because we were worried about some 5G nanoparticle Bill Gates conspiracy nonsense but because of the potential unknown side effects. Doing a trial on a few hundred thousand and then rolling out to billions is like testing your changes locally and then pushing them straight to production. "But human bodies are not anything like software dev" I hear you say. You'r…

>If we go forward assuming everything we do is infallible and silencing anybody with concerns, someday we will have a real disaster.

And if we go down this road hopefully it's sooner rather than later. The people responsible should have to live (or not) through the suck rather than having some yet unknown future generation be saddled with cleaning up the mess.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by noodles_nomore »

Nextgrid wrote: post #76
PKop wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I find this hard to believe. It’s beneficial for everyone including manufacturers for their products to be proven safe. If we assume manufacturers are intentionally malicious, what prevents them from outright submitting a dummy saline shot for testing instead of the real thing, guaranteeing absolutely zero side-effects?

It's not so much lying as it is a nefarious combination of motivated reasoning, plausible deniability, blind compliance, responsibility dispersion, greed-motivated short-term thinking, etc.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by ETH_start »

throwaway406382 wrote: post #86
ETH_start wrote: post #46

Is the reference to "people" instead of "women", in "currently and formerly menstruating people", a new trend in academia?

The lead author is in women's studies, not real science. I quote from their abstract: "...among a convenience sample...39% of people on gender-affirming hormones" convenience sample means "I asked my friends on social media" And 39% on gender-affirming hormones! Yes, I know trans is all the rage now, but it's not 39% of the population! It's a highly biased sample.

The "39%" is a reference to the percentage of those on masculinizing hormones with breakthrough periods, not the percentage of females on masculinizing hormones.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by mk81 »

StillBored wrote: post #50
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China literally locked down Shanghai and millions of people in their homes, had police everywhere monitoring, had almost no exceptions other than for the police, and literally boarded people in their homes, engaged every spying mechanism they had, did mandatory testing, for more than six weeks , and it did not stop COVID - but it is increasingly clear it only delayed it from spreading inevitably. Even WIRED, pro-vacc…

After it already went endemic, and the transmissiblity went through the roof. Not sure why that is hard to understand. If this virus killed 95% of people would you be arguing against lockdowns? I think most people can agree that its one of those to little to late situations in china and they need to reconsider at this point, but that doesn't make what they are trying to do wrong.

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by PKop »

StillBored wrote: post #50
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China literally locked down Shanghai and millions of people in their homes, had police everywhere monitoring, had almost no exceptions other than for the police, and literally boarded people in their homes, engaged every spying mechanism they had, did mandatory testing, for more than six weeks , and it did not stop COVID - but it is increasingly clear it only delayed it from spreading inevitably. Even WIRED, pro-vacc…

After it already went endemic, and the transmissiblity went through the roof. Not sure why that is hard to understand. If this virus killed 95% of people would you be arguing against lockdowns? I think most people can agree that its one of those to little to late situations in china and they need to reconsider at this point, but that doesn't make what they are trying to do wrong.

People that think the spread of this coronavirus could ever have been stopped, let alone without destroying social fabric, mental health and causing an economic depression/hyperinflation are insane.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by zxcvbn4038 »

jmcgough wrote: post #28
PKop wrote: post #23

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Here again a blatant lack of clarity around the issue. Who are dying and at what rate? What are their comorbidities? What is the vax status of those that are dying, presumably many have taken the vaccine anyways yes? But you do you, is the point. I'm perfectly fine with my choice of not taking it: I'm not overweight, I lift weights and exercise regularly, have low bodyfat percent, I get plenty of sunlight for Vitamin…

> But you do you, is the point I've never understood this type of selfishness. If you get sick you will, on average, infect another 2-3 people. It's not just about you.

The vaccine doesn’t stop you from carrying or transmitting COVID, it just lessens the severity the symptoms you suffer personally.

The people who don’t mask up, regardless of having taken the vaccine or not, are actually the biggest problem. I wouldn’t call them selfish because it is their ignorance of how disease works that is to blame. I wouldn’t even blame most of them in light of all the propaganda and confused public servants that say otherwise. I would reserve the selfish tag for the people who know they are carriers and continue to go maskless anyway.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by throwaway406382 »

jbd28 wrote: post #77
throwaway406382 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a throwaway because of the potential backlash...This paper is pure bull. They did a survey of 30k people and asked them about their experience and then said that the vaccine didn't cause anything and that we should trust our institutions. They didn't even have a control (unvaccinated) group! Just 30k vaccinated folks who responded to a survey about whether they perceived more/less bleeding, and such. I'm actuall…

Pretty strong words and claims while providing no data to refute the paper

Yes...I'll post the paper to HN when it's live. We're still finalizing analyses and writing the paper and I'm not at liberty to share it yet.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by PKop »

fernandotakai wrote: post #37
mcronce wrote: post #20

> long after covid is any sort threat whatsoever People dying and people with - and still getting- long COVID would probably disagree with that statement.

i took all three shots and got covid about two weeks ago. it was HARSH. no sense of smell, no sense of taste, 3 days with high-ish fever (39C), the body ache was crazy bad and worse of all: brain fog. i managed to avoid going to the hospital, but barely. and that's with 3 shots. i'm almost sure i would be in an ICU if i didn't get any shots.

What would the shots making you sicker look like?

In any case, I never had any shots, got Covid last December, was sick for 3 days with a bad sore throat and recovered just fine shortly after.

Many people are rightly not so obsessed with irrational safetyism and have no problems avoiding the vaccine and getting on with life.

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