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I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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You'll have to pry Firefox from my cold, dead hands! At the outset, yes, chromium based browsers feel snappier.. But, stuff that Chrome will not have and are absolutely essential 1. Containers... I use another unverified extension to match urls and automatically assign containers... 2. Ublock origin 3. Tree style tabs 4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request That said, i still end up using chromium for tea…

Which container extension are you using for domain grouping? I've been looking for a good one

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I'm making browser games and there are some still some performance issues that make my game unplayable in Firefox, e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=925025 I really don't want to have a "works best in Chrome" banner but until Firefox catches up I don't have much choice (don't get me started on Safari, I've already given up).

Ah, one of those eternal issues. I've seen a fair share of them, often well over a decade old.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

No. Tab groups are great, they allow you to bundle context but persist it front and center. On a given day I might be working on five different things, I context switch between tab groups, make some progress within a group, and move along. Bookmarks absolutely do not solve this issue. Bookmarks are not ephemeral, and take considerably more time to organize than simply using tabs naturally.

strong agree

maybe sometime will come the realisation that a tab, a bookmark and a history entry are basically the same

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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This sounds like an AD more than a recommendation

Everything listed can be achieved by using uBlock Origin

There is a reason why people abandoned Firefox, Mozilla refused to fix the performance issues, they refused to do something about the toolbar bloat, the browser became a nest for adwares/malwares, a security and privacy nightmare

and later they refused to abandon the Google deal

Google came with chrome and everyone switched, safe, efficient, reliable, and it stayed with the same UX since the beginning, a win for the users

Privacy? they don't share your data with anybody, there are no 3rd party addons or 3rd party links, unlike with Firefox for example (Pocket, Google, Duckduckgo, and various Ads in your home page)

Chrome or Chromium is the way to go if you care about:

- security

- privacy

- battery usage

Concerning their position of power, i don't buy it, Apple and WebKit have a greater impact imo and now that Microsoft is working on Chromium, it no longer is a viable argument

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... , also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

TST is literally the killer feature for FF. It's actually the only reason I went to FF, it was getting out of hand to have all my tabs across the top, and it makes little sense with modern screens being so wide that giving up a little horizontal space to get legible titles is absolutely worth it. Someone in Chrome/Edge/Safari must be thinking about doing this, I don't know why it hasn't been cloned. Can't be too hard…

> TST is literally the killer feature for FF.

Which raises the question: why would FF sabotage it? Why isn't it easy to hide the default tabs, and why does the sidebar have the name of the extension providing it stuck at the top?

They had all of the warning in the world about how important this extension was to people years before finally removing XUL, half a decade later you still can only repair the display problems through CSS that isn't kept consistent from version to version, and feature requests/bug reports on the issue are filled with antagonism from the project.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I started using Firefox ages ago because of firebug. I’ve been using it as my primary browser ever since. I’ve never had an issue with it (other than the occasional web site that is designed to only work with Chrome). Maybe I don’t know what I’m missing since I haven’t given Chrome a try (other than loading the occasional website that only works on Chrome). Maybe Chrome is better than Firefox, but I don’t have any co…

The big one for me is that Chrome's JavaScript engine is much faster than Mozilla's. I'm not sure why, but it makes a noticible difference. I use this to my advantage by using FF as my daily driver. I believe that if my site is fast on Firefox, then it's damn near fast enough for everyone.

I ran into an interesting situation where I was building a Conway implementation and getting 60fps in Firefox / 10fps in Chrome. Turned out that Chrome had absolutely horrible performance with attempts to access out-of-bounds array indexes, where Firefox had some early fail fasts in place.

So anecdata, but I wouldn’t rely on Chrome automatically working well if Firefox does.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

> Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice.

I've been using Brave for a while and I'm considering going back to FF, partly to get out of Chromium.

However, this is a point I don't get. What do I care if these features are native or plug-ins? My Brave plugins are synced, so whenever I install Brave and set it up I immediately. If the plugin is well done, there is no difference, and for people who don't care about that particular feature it could be less bloat to have it on a feature.

Specifically for the Reader mode, the Chromium Addon I use comes from the Firefox code for the same functionality, so it's just as good. Kudos to FF, OSS is awesome.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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TST is literally the killer feature for FF. It's actually the only reason I went to FF, it was getting out of hand to have all my tabs across the top, and it makes little sense with modern screens being so wide that giving up a little horizontal space to get legible titles is absolutely worth it. Someone in Chrome/Edge/Safari must be thinking about doing this, I don't know why it hasn't been cloned. Can't be too hard…

I never got to leverage TST, something about the UX bothers me. I have better flow with Tab Stash. Also TST suffers with my hoarding habits and the subtree features have bare naked UI.

From the extension description, Tab Stash seems to save all open tabs as bookmarks. But this feature is already built into Firefox. Am I missing something? I’ve never used either of these extensions (will be trying out TST) so forgive my ignorance if I’m missing something obvious!

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... , also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

Is there a way to make TST look nicer? I’m sure a lot of people appreciate its UI, but it really stands out to me in a negative way.

People hate the UI. It was clean before the transition to webextensions, now it's messy and can only be fixed through futzing with userChrome.css (with no help from mozilla.)
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