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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Recently, I've researched browser battery consumption for laptops. Every test I've seen rates Firefox the worst out of the big 3 or 4. Are there any settings/extensions that may have been overlooked for these reviews that can be used to help Firefox be more energy efficient?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I don't get the extensions part. All of them apart from the containers (that's a browser or more like engine specific behavior) are available for Chrome so they are not FF-only. Most of them are "over the top" if you start with uBlock Origin too. Like you don't need multiple extensions to do the same thing > most of the time that leads to broken sites. uBlock Origin on its own is incredibly powerful. Last but not lea…

The article specifically talks "of Google breaking those AdBlock extensions in 2023 with a massive update, which is rather terrifying, to say the least." What is referenced here is Manifest V3. Gorhill, uBlock Origin developer, agrees that this will significantly limit uBlock Origin on Chrome. https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338#iss...

>The article specifically talks of Google breaking those AdBlock extensions

I bet there will be a Chromium for without that + Brave is already working on it. Power of open source I guess?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

> Good/extensible keybindings

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortc... is a little hidden, but gives you at least some flexibility.

> Tab search

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., I use % in the address bar very regularly.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy.

But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I've switched from Firefox to Safari for most of my browsing, and Chrome for anything that needs devtools.

Why? Battery. Efficiency. On the new M1 Macbooks I can run Safari and be unplugged all day long. The increased power consumption and battery drain is noticeable when using FF and I can't make it all the way through the day. As far as extensions go, I have 1Blocker and it works well, it does block YouTube ads. The only things I miss are Tree Style Tabs and Container Tabs.

I also find performance on FF to be a lot worse than both Chrome and Safari. Firefox gets sluggish with many tabs open. JS-heavy sites will be jittery and laggy in Firefox, but buttery smooth in Chrome. Having 100 tabs open is sluggish in Firefox, but smooth in Chrome/Safari. In FF some sites will occasionally crash their tab, but they don't crash in Chrome/Safari. Etc.

Then there's the attitude of Mozilla constantly changing the interface, shoving things like Pocket or Mozilla VPN in my face. Sorry Firefox, but I've left and not coming back.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

#46

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden.

Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

An author doesn't get to choose what the website of the publisher does. It's not like this is the author's personal website that they have decided to put all of these trackers on it. This is a voice crying from within the system about how bad the system is. Is there a lot of cognitive dissonance in understanding how web publishing works?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

Traditionally, at publications of repute, the advertising and journalism departments were entirely segregated from one another. This gives the appearance of independence, rather than being influenced by an advertiser. I expect that, especially since the skill sets are rather orthogonal, that kind of segregation still happens today on web publications.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

This was one of the reasons I left online publishing.

When I did my internship in an ad agency the first thing I was told was to install an adblocker. Talking about hypocrisy.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

In fairness, the person writing the article doesn't really have a say in the infra that the publisher is using. I agree that doesn't make the hypocrisy magically disappear, but it shouldn't detract from the points being made about the platforms we use to access the web.
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