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Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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> In the US, roughly as many vaccinated people in the US die from COVID every day as there are total deaths across the country in motor vehicle accidents. It's truly shocking that we're not doing more to reduce car dependency.

Increased popularity of WFH probably helps a bit. You can order groceries to your house pretty easily as well.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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> In the US, roughly as many vaccinated people in the US die from COVID every day as there are total deaths across the country in motor vehicle accidents. It's truly shocking that we're not doing more to reduce car dependency.

Increased popularity of WFH probably helps a bit. You can order groceries to your house pretty easily as well.

Do they magically appear at your house with no addition driving involved?

(Sorry, that came off snarkier than I intended. Online ordering of food just kind of outsources the driving, doesn’t reduce it. Different maybe for delivery trucks that serve multiple houses per trip.)

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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> In the US, roughly as many vaccinated people in the US die from COVID every day as there are total deaths across the country in motor vehicle accidents. It's truly shocking that we're not doing more to reduce car dependency.

Increased popularity of WFH probably helps a bit. You can order groceries to your house pretty easily as well.

Traffic deaths went up during the pandemic, so unfortunately WFH is not effective at impacting traffic deaths.

https://www.gao.gov/blog/during-covid-19-road-fatalities-inc...

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Why wouldn’t having Covid several times confer the same immunity as you having Covid once?

People's immune systems are not all the same. Some people hardly ever get sick. Some people seem to hardly ever be well. And everything in between.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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We could just approve Corbevax in the US. It's a more traditional vaccine and includes more of the virus than spike proteins. It's also unpatented and cheap.

The cynic in me says there is huge interest in having an annual Covid vaccine like the flu one. They'll just change spike proteins every year in a never ending game of cat and mouse. With mRNA that game is easy and profitable.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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Lol nobody touching this discussion with a however-long-you-can-think-of pole. At least not anymore.

My contribution: I think we have been destroying trust systematically for so long that people are losing their sanity. Finally it is time to rethink our foundations and stop coercing. Currently there are various things that take trust for granted and they will need to become a great deal more persuasive if they want to retain their status moving forward (examples include: governments, currrencies, science, etc. - basically central coordination built on a foundation of coercion, science was the last bastion but the "education system" has become a certification system).

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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I'm surprised there is no mention of the pan-coronavirus vaccine the US Army has been working on, which is also a "nanoparticle" vaccine: https://www.army.mil/article/252890/preclinical_studies_supp... Seems like an odd omission for someone so (literally) invested in the space.

Also no mention of the Cuba-China pan-Corona vaccine.

https://countercurrents.org/2022/06/cuba-and-china-file-pate...

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> In the US, roughly as many vaccinated people in the US die from COVID every day as there are total deaths across the country in motor vehicle accidents. It's truly shocking that we're not doing more to reduce car dependency.

I know you were referring to using cars less but

- you need a license - you usually need insurance - there are a large amount of laws dedicated to driving - there are often dedicated police to enforce those law - cars themselves have a huge number of mandated safely systems Etc

It's normal that something causing so much death would have a large amount of regulation

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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Lol nobody touching this discussion with a however-long-you-can-think-of pole. At least not anymore. My contribution: I think we have been destroying trust systematically for so long that people are losing their sanity. Finally it is time to rethink our foundations and stop coercing. Currently there are various things that take trust for granted and they will need to become a great deal more persuasive if they want t…

What, with respect to vaccines, specifically, would you say has undermined trust?

Was there some massive scandalous plague of side effects caused by a carelessly approved vaccine that I missed?

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