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U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins Saturday

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Re: U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins Saturday

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Post by projektfu »

vorpalhex wrote: post #55
kelseyfrog wrote: post #37

What constitutes a 988 emergency? I was raised with a sacrosanct view of 911. Do not call unless it is a bona fide emergency. This means something along the lines of a situation outside my expertise that poses a threat to life. Broadly speaking it ranges from medical, physical, security, and probably a host of other things I'm forgetting. However, I don't have the same instilled ideas about 988. What are the sufficie…

Your view of 911 is incorrect. You should attend a safety briefing from your responders (or if in a smaller region, call their office number). To loosely rephrase: "911 is if you need assistance now. Non-emergency is for the paperwork the next day."

If you need the police to come for some reason, even a car parked too long on the street, you call 911. There's no bar to meet.

Where I live, 911 might not answer, though. I've had that experience.

Re: U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins Saturday

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Post by WalterSear »

fuckcensorship wrote: post #42

Suicide hotlines, on the surface, seem like a good thing. Having a phone number someone can call 24/7 to talk to someone who is trained in helping someone undergoing a mental health crisis seems like an effective way to reduce suicides and benefit mental health overall. However, I think they have the opposite effect in practice. I suffer from pretty severe depression. It runs in my family and it is something I've str…

I've been similarly confused, but I believe that the majority of suicides are impulsive, and driven by distress rather than depression, and those are the people these services are intended to support.

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Post by takenpilot »

TexanFeller wrote: post #80

I’ve heard people advise not to call such hotlines because their intervention is not limited to just talking to you. It’s said they often cal the police who stop you by force and often make your life even worse than it was.

This is true, actually. A good friend of mine disappeared for a while because of this. The story he told me about the experience afterward was wild.

Re: U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins Saturday

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

fuckcensorship wrote: post #42

Suicide hotlines, on the surface, seem like a good thing. Having a phone number someone can call 24/7 to talk to someone who is trained in helping someone undergoing a mental health crisis seems like an effective way to reduce suicides and benefit mental health overall. However, I think they have the opposite effect in practice. I suffer from pretty severe depression. It runs in my family and it is something I've str…

I don’t know how the service is used in practice, but maybe a lot of people are calling on behalf of someone else?

Re: U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins Saturday

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Post by kelseyfrog »

adamredwoods wrote: post #79

Finally. This is excellent. Offloading mental health issues from the police is critical to reforming our country. For some of the doubters on this initiative, NPR had a good discussion: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/16/1111868486/calling-988-in-the...

Hope to see much more of this unbundling in the future.

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Post by confidantlake »

coding123 wrote: post #50
fuckcensorship wrote: post #42

Suicide hotlines, on the surface, seem like a good thing. Having a phone number someone can call 24/7 to talk to someone who is trained in helping someone undergoing a mental health crisis seems like an effective way to reduce suicides and benefit mental health overall. However, I think they have the opposite effect in practice. I suffer from pretty severe depression. It runs in my family and it is something I've str…

What would be more useful for people to do? I've noticed this about society too. We often employ the "easiest" solution to some major problem. Look at homelessness, theft, drugs, mass murders. None of the solutions work. (All of the problems are seemingly ALWAYS on the rise - not fall) I've been wonder if the actual root of the problem is everyone becoming an island. Communal interaction has been replaced with online…

They don't seem always on the rise to me.

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Post by metadat »

bowsamic wrote: post #87
danachow wrote: post #59

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Grandparent post is insensitive to others who experience depression differently than they do.

GP deserves empathy, of course. At the same time, the judgement in their post is quite harsh and negative.

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Post by Fargoan »

bowsamic wrote: post #87
danachow wrote: post #59

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It's not callous at all. Why would anyone expect random social media users to do more than post the number? If I was the type of person to try and talk people out of suicide I wouldn't be doing it on social media, it'd be volunteering for that hotline. Obviously the number works for many people.

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Post by wyager »

vorpalhex wrote: post #65
coding123 wrote: post #50

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What would be more useful for people to do? I've noticed this about society too. We often employ the "easiest" solution to some major problem. Look at homelessness, theft, drugs, mass murders. None of the solutions work. (All of the problems are seemingly ALWAYS on the rise - not fall) I've been wonder if the actual root of the problem is everyone becoming an island. Communal interaction has been replaced with online…

Violent crime until recently has been generally steadily dropping since the 70s.

Attributable to rapidly increasing police expenditures. The "baseline" level of crime in the counterfactual scenario where police expenditure had stayed constant is almost certainly increasing.

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Post by heartbreak »

cmg wrote: post #69
Kye wrote: post #56

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I see people recommend Trans Lifeline all the time. Are you able to offer specifics on this?

I'm hesitant to answer this because a lot of what I'd have to say can't be corroborated except for people who work or worked there. I'll summarize, with the understanding that I left a month after the 2020 election (I gave my notice in October 2020 and stayed on to get the organization through potential security issues around the election). - A culture of internal anti-Blackness. During the uprising of 2020, staff an…

And your new role is as an editorial board member for CovertAction Magazine?

https://twitter.com/covertactionmag?s=21&t=zbpg0lQWdYJ70Gbhq...

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