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I would gladly pay $200 a month for that.
Just curious but how would you use 10GB up/down for personal purposes?
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I would gladly pay $200 a month for that.
Serious question: what do you want that much bandwidth for? I could upgrade from 100Mb/s to 1Gb/s but I haven’t because honestly can’t think of a use case for myself.
Nowadays, with my UltraHD Blu-ray rips on the Plex server, it's not unreasonable at all to require more than a 2 Gbps connection to reliably stream those. I'm often away from home, so it's nice to just be able to log into my own personal server to watch stuff at it's native and highest available quality.
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At 1Gbps the internet becomes close to indistinguishable from a local network, opening up interesting possibilities like a "NAS" that's actually just the cloud. That extra bandwidth, combined with the low latency of fibre, can make it possible to easily interact with a remote PC as if it's sitting in front of you, so you could do away with a home PC or workstation and use a thin client to access a beefy machine on-de…
For those use cases, latency is IMO a bigger deal than bandwidth. For remote PC, 20mbps 5ms latency would beat 10Gbps 50ms latency. And due to the speed of light, you can't get latency arbitrarily low.
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Who paid them to build fiber and under what contract?
Telecom act of 1996 paid them to build fiber but they set the speed limits low enough that they could satisfy it with DSL. There’s new DSL tech that’s ~100mbps, so this is that technique again. The fatal flaw in 1996, like today, is not pushing for gigabit, and is one of the major reasons the US is a declining global power. Faster internet access is core infrastructure for participation in the 21st century.
Do you have a factual basis for such a statement? Here is the text of the act.
https://transition.fcc.gov/Reports/tcom1996.txt
In fact, the text of the act doesn't mention fiber -- which part involves paying companies to build fiber? -- and one part is very explicit in not referring to a specific form of technology.
> The term `advanced telecommunications capability' is defined, without regard to any transmission media or technology, as high-speed, switched, broadband telecommunications capability that enables users to originate and receive high-quality voice, data, graphics, and video telecommunications using any technology.
In fact, for a simple sanity-check on the factualness of your statement, we need just one question: If FedGov paid companies to build fiber -- which companies, and how much did it pay each of them?
What resources does a 100 Mbps connection give access to that a 25 Mbps connection does not? You don't need 100 Mbps to access educational content. Khan Academy looks fine in 1080p. And even if it didn't, Netflix says their 4K streams only need 15 Mbps. You don't need 100 Mbps to be a remote knowledge worker. Video calls need a stable connection with low latency—I wish more people used ethernet—but that connection do…
Everyone's needs are different. Yes, a lot of people can get along just fine with 20 megabit up and down, and you are spot on that latency may be the worse issue. In my case, my work requires me to frequently upload files of about 15GB in size. On my old cable connection - which did provide gigabit downloads - the uploads were capped at 30 megabits. So it took about two hours to upload one of these files, with people…
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Why is broadband so shitty in the heart of Silicon Valley? Why doesn’t Google just wire the whole place up as a tech demo? Comcast just upgraded my fiber to 7 gbps. It’s spendy ($300/mo) but I also have gigabit Fios available for $80/mo.
Google wired my city up as a tech demo. Their microtrenching approach was atrocious and resulted in frequent service interruptions and significant traffic disruption as they patched the same spots multiple times. Eventually they decided the network was so damaged that they’d have to do a total rebuild, and that wasn’t interesting. They threw up their hands up and left, giving the city a few million to clean up the me…
Google kills any project that's not profitable within a year. They kill any project that doesn't become a 100x'er in a few years.
Microsoft lost $4,000,000,000 to $7,000,000,000 on their Xbox division until the Xbox 360. That's the kind of loss that Google executives and directors can't stomach, for whatever reason, but it's the kind of loss you have to suffer through to get fiber out to a whole state. Google could slowly conquer state after state with fiber, which would be an enormous benefit to them, but they're too cowardly and short-sighted to see it through.
There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. There's an important point that I think people are missing, which is that the bandwidth usage of internet services is going to be carefully tuned to balance quality and stability at typical internet speeds. When a large portion of co…
There is still a market for Blue rays for precisely this reason, compression does a lot of harm to the image and streaming services often run at 1/4 or less the bitrate. There is also the sound compression as well which is very heavily done on places like Netflix, presumably because their intended audience is watching on a tablet or a low end smart TV that has terrible in built speakers but if you have reasonable add…
And “4K” under 100 Mbps? A joke.
My parents are stuck with AT&T (which peddles glorified DSL), and Netflix barely works.
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You have access to residential internet with 10Gbps up and down? I didn't even know that was a thing.
A lot of Utah (areas that have UTOPIA Fiber) has had it since 2018. It’s still $200+ a month though.
1gbit symmetric is ~$70-80 from UTOPIA providers, and $70 from Google fiber.
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> There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. You said it, not me. You said there's shills on this thread. That's the only possible motivation to argue there's no need for more bandwidth, there's another reason I came up with but I don't want it to be plagiarized, so I won't s…
Regarding your Cussen Test, did you write this comment using something like GPT-2? I got curious so I checked a few of your account’s other comments. Some of them are very similar to this one [0], but others are short and concise [1]. I can think of a few other explanations for this, but since you mentioned the test… [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31937861 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31988748