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Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Animals that are both higher intelligence in our perception and closer to us day to day will fall into the category of disgust, imo. For instance, I've had dogs my whole life. They're pretty deep creatures with emotions, intelligence, and personalities all their own. If you tell me that you ate what I have a personal connection to, what I consider my family - It's hard not to look at you in disgust. Similar to the di…

Cows have much larger brains than dogs and are quite intelligent, and so are pigs. The "dogs are special" argument is a familiarity thing or perhaps a statement that dogs evolved to more effectively manipulate human emotions.

Cows may have larger brains, but they also have much bigger bodies. They aren't anywhere near as intelligent as dogs.

Now, with pigs, you have a point. They're indeed very smart.

I justify eating pigs by reasoning that pigs will happily eat humans if they get a chance (a few pig farmers lose their lives that way every year, plus there's the occasional serial killer...). Turnabout is fair play.

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The psychology of eating animals is definitely a great example of how people compartmentalize and simply avoid thinking about the details too much in order to evade cognitive dissonance. Which is also why so many respond with hostility when prompted to do so. (Disclaimer: I'm an omnivore.)

In most cases, if you grow up eating something, it's normal. If you don't, it's unusual. Sometimes people think things are disgusting when they really mean they're not used to them. I think that explains about 95% of it.

me with escargot

Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Interesting! Is this US-specific?

Rabbit, Duck, and Lamb are all pretty common meats to eat in the US. Usually in finer dining, but I've never seen anyone raise an eyebrow at these. Horse, on the other hand...

Duck tends to be pretty expensive in upscale restaurants, but is generally available at a much more reasonable price in any good (but not necessarily fancy) Chinese restaurant.

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Dog is clearly a special case. It's the most common pet in the USA; many people consider their dog part of their family. Dogs are known for forming such strong connections to their humans. On the spectrum between farmed-for-food and totally-off-limits, it's not hard to guess where we would put dogs. It's just like indians and cows. Cows have a special place in their culture, therefore they don't eat beef.

I’m not a vegan but I had a few cows growing up that basically became like pets. They would come up to me just to spend time and receive physical affection, they knew my voice, etc. I’m not sure if this reason for not eating dogs stands up to scrutiny for me.

ya lots of farm kids have pets like that and lots of us end up eating them later

Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Eating horse meat was very common in central Europe before the big wars. In WWI and WWII even more so, horses were declared essential for the war in axis countries, and eating them became illegal. In Italy horse meat picked right up again after WWII, but in Austria and Germany people forgot about the reasons it seems and it stayed unacceptable/frowned upon. You can find (excellent) horse meat products in western Aust…

Horse meat is not unusual in Japan.

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Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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We eat horsemeat in Italy as well, though not very commonly. I did a few times, eh, nothing to write home about. Also donkey meat ragu once, that was pretty good. AFAIK rabbit meat is not viewed very well across the pond either, like in the US. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know about across the pond, but there's definitely a taboo about it in the UK. I had a discussion about it with a gentleman who cooks for a pub and he was going out of his way to say that it's perfectly fine to eat rabbit and there's nothing wrong with it. We were seated at a Spanish restaurant in a town in the South of England, with a plate of kidneys, I believe, in front of us, and the conversation turned to meats that the British dont' commonly eat.

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> rabbit meat is not viewed very well across the pond either, like in the US It's not very common but I'm not shocked if I hear someone say they ate it, as I would be hearing someone ate horse. Rabbit will occasionally be sold at normal grocers but generally in short supply. I remember it being more common when I was a kid and I associate it with older people. Same with lamb, which is also increasingly rare stateside…

Rabbits fed the same kind of market that chickens do, but chickens have been engineered to produce absolutely massive amounts of meat for cheap, and rabbits haven't kept up.

Probably a good reason to eat rabbit rather than chicken...

Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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I’m not a vegan but I had a few cows growing up that basically became like pets. They would come up to me just to spend time and receive physical affection, they knew my voice, etc. I’m not sure if this reason for not eating dogs stands up to scrutiny for me.

ya lots of farm kids have pets like that and lots of us end up eating them later

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