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Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by kevincox »

iancmceachern wrote: post #44
barrysteve wrote: post #3

It's probably time to start saving the videos you like if you haven't already. I still remember when Key and Peele's whole catalog (or a lot of it) was available on youtube back in 2015-2016. For a brief window of time. Some of my favourite songs with 10s of millions of views have been taken down. Many niche videos don't get reuploaded. No guarentees that youtube will keep your unique or exclusive videos publicly ava…

And as the platform ages creators will start to pass away, what then?

Presumably an inactive account wouldn't be removed by default. (Unless you have manually configured this)

Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by kevincox »

crmd wrote: post #39
booi wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tape (~$6/TB) is cheaper than archival storage (~$14/TB) but I'm not sure it's worth the cost of having another "offline" system that needs robots or humans in order to access for rebuilds, maintenance, verification etc. I'm surprised by how magnetic storage continues to decline in price as densities continue to increase. I wonder where the end actually is.

You might be surprised to see the scale of LTO tape consumption by FAANG companies.

Because at this scale the lower cost is worth it. For smaller scales the infrastructure and management overhead of tape is never repaid.

Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

soraminazuki wrote: post #43
the_biot wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like so many questions of this type, I think the Internet Archive is the answer. They are not a warehouse of stuff stored on media/formats that are forever becoming obsolete -- they store data, keyed by timestamp, sometimes with metadata. How they store it and serve it up is irrelevant, and they will upgrade as needed (I assume this is a continuous process). If the IA didn't exist, we'd have to invent it. I suspect i…

I don't think that's a complete answer though. The article lists ContentID as the major reason videos get deleted, meaning that copyright trolls could go after IA if they want to. What we desperately need is copyright law reform.

The Internet Archive has a lot of stuff they don’t make available over the internet.

A couple of months ago, they sent me a thumb drive of some stuff I requested (for a nominal processing fee).

Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by alexvoda »

kevincox wrote: post #51
iancmceachern wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And as the platform ages creators will start to pass away, what then?

Presumably an inactive account wouldn't be removed by default. (Unless you have manually configured this)

It will still get DMCA claims and since it's inactive there won't be anyone to counterclaim. Defacto it will lead to the removal of content. Bitrot by DMCA.

Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by the_biot »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #53
soraminazuki wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's a complete answer though. The article lists ContentID as the major reason videos get deleted, meaning that copyright trolls could go after IA if they want to. What we desperately need is copyright law reform.

The Internet Archive has a lot of stuff they don’t make available over the internet. A couple of months ago, they sent me a thumb drive of some stuff I requested (for a nominal processing fee).

I'm surprised to hear that, what's the point of keeping stuff they don't make available? What sort of stuff is this?

Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

the_biot wrote: post #56
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Internet Archive has a lot of stuff they don’t make available over the internet. A couple of months ago, they sent me a thumb drive of some stuff I requested (for a nominal processing fee).

I'm surprised to hear that, what's the point of keeping stuff they don't make available? What sort of stuff is this?

Well, they do make it available, just not over the internet, I assume for legal reasons.

In my case it was some TV footage broadcast on the evening of September 10, 2001.

Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by whoomp12342 »

themadprogramer wrote: post #38
zucked wrote: post #36

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That started as a flash animation, right? So. many. wasted. hours. watching flash animations. It's amazing how quickly flash disappeared after the dominos were set in motion.

I guess you can say that it FADED LIKE A FLASH :}

RIP

Re: 52% of YouTube videos live in 2010 have been deleted

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Post by whoomp12342 »

zucked wrote: post #36
whoomp12342 wrote: post #5

aka 52% of youtube from the era where it was fun have been deleted. badger badger badger badger mushROOM MUSSHROOOMM!!

That started as a flash animation, right? So. many. wasted. hours. watching flash animations. It's amazing how quickly flash disappeared after the dominos were set in motion.

if you can get your hands on the swf you can still run flash locally. Adobe even provides the launcher.
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