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People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

dilap wrote: post #325
FollowingTheDao wrote: post #297

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Yesssss! So my diet is usually very strict. I will mostly only eat salmon, mackerel, oysters and mussels, and a lot of berries with some breads and rice. No plant oils at all and very low carb, but not no carb. I only resorted to this diet because I had a series of metabolic disorders in my self and in my family and I also know my genetics. I have the changes to FADS1, FADS2, and CPT1A which make me much more sensiti…

Super interesting stuff! (FWIW, Dave Feldman (cholesterolcode.com) has me pretty convinced that high LDL is not bad in all contexts. High HDL does always seem to be good, though.)

Yes I agree! HDL Carrie’s with it a lot of antioxidant capacity that protects the LDL from being oxidized. I have not worried about my high LDL ever since I understood this.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4607861/

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Post by tonyarkles »

deltaonenine wrote: post #159
tonyarkles wrote: post #106

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It's really quite amazing how quickly it affects aerobic endurance as well. I had a knee injury, waited 9 months for surgery, recovered, did a self-planned physio routine, and started feeling ready to get back into aerobic exercise. There was a 5km fun run in town that I figured I'd use as motivation. I did a slightly modified HIIT routine: walking warm up to the football field a few blocks away from my house, 8x fla…

This is real and scientifically validated. The first person who ran the 4 minute mile changed the game by using intervals. Prior to that everyone trained for the mile by running the mile. Athletes who train for the mile have to have intervals as the majority of their regiment. This is by far more effective then running long distances for increasing vo2 max.

Oh, yeah, that’s a detail I forgot! I didn’t actually try running a 5k before the race! (I had done a bunch of 5s and 10s before the injury though) I went into it not knowing, even a little bit, what my overall time might be. Mostly that was because I didn’t particularly care at that point, I was just happy to be back running again.

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Post by giraffe_lady »

the_only_law wrote: post #109
giraffe_lady wrote: post #90

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I'm only myself of course but to me, "why did so many people read this as an invitation to share personal health details with strangers in public" is actually a pretty interesting question. Sorry it was boring to you.

You made a sarcastic dismissal of other people's comments, as did I. If you were truly interested in the question you posted, You could have just explicitly asked.

yes but mine was funny

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Post by andreareina »

butwhywhyoh wrote: post #163
convexfunction wrote: post #156

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> losing body fat means that you must continuously make choices that decrease your comfort in some way - eating fewer highly rewarding foods, maintaining a state of hunger, increasing activity level Not necessarily! I've successfully lost a lot of body fat (~50 pounds over the last 18 months) by deliberately changing my diet to eat more foods (that I like) that are lower in energy density than what I was eating befor…

You just restated what the OP said, but tried to paint it somehow in a more positive light. You yourself stated you are "eating fewer ... highly rewarding foods". So what exactly are you contradicting in their statement?

Reward ≠ comfort. GP is saying that they reduced their calorie intake while actually eating more, and not incurring extra hunger. Which is absolutely plausible.

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Post by Jensson »

giantg2 wrote: post #49
the_only_law wrote: post #35

Seems to line up with my experience, am always burning up (until I turn on the AC and freeze) Especially at night though I have to to jack the temperature down or I won't sleep. Also less hungry aligns pretty well. Unfortunately when I get hungry, it's normally "a little hungry) at akward spread out intervals. I probably feel most hungry after midnight but never eat then because well, I have to sleep soon. I've tried…

Alcohol and ice cream before bed will help you gain weight. Doesn't even have to be a lot - like one drink and 1/2-1 cup of ice cream.

When I eat a lot of ice cream to gain weight I feel like I am burning up even at lower room temperatures. You have a lot of cells that are made to burn calories to generate heat all over your body under your skin, when they get active they consume a ton of calories. I guess they activate a bit easier for some, but everyone has them.

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Post by andreareina »

Aloha wrote: post #166
jliptzin wrote: post #145

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Same for me. Even as Ive tried to gain weight, my weight barely budged. 150-155 for at least the last 10 years. I have obese (300lb+) friends and they insist they don’t eat that much more than me. Except they do. We go out to eat, we stop eating after about 5-10 min. I’m full and done. They burp a couple times, then proceed to keep eating, smothering everything in Mayo and bbq sauce. Then they get insane desserts. An…

I'm fat (I see no shame in this word), my partner is not - she and I will order the same food, I clean my plate (starving children in africa related childhood trauma, I guess), she will often eat half of hers and leave the rest - she drinks the regular soda, and I have water, diet soda or unsweet iced tea. I can't speak to your friends, but there is no universal truth here - I know a bunch of fat people, and none of…

NEAT (non-exercise activity thermogenesis) is a huge confounder. Differences in fidgeting, walking around etc really add up.

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Post by the_only_law »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #333
the_only_law wrote: post #109

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You made a sarcastic dismissal of other people's comments, as did I. If you were truly interested in the question you posted, You could have just explicitly asked.

yes but mine was funny

Perhaps to someone without humor.

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Post by rpmisms »

gamblor956 wrote: post #268
rpmisms wrote: post #65

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I am mostly sedentary, and maintain body fat below 10%. It's mainly genetics, and probably 20% diet.

Sub-10% body fat is underwear model territory. At that low level of fat, every muscle is well-defined, no matter how small. A lot of guys severely underestimate their body fat %. Sub 10% generally isn't possible without heavy dieting unless you're still going through puberty; genetics has nothing to do with it.

I'm aware of what it looks like, and I've been up at 12-15% before. It's absolutely genetic, most of my family runs very skinny. I have generally decent muscle definition, although the fat I have tends to sit in my hips and shoulders. My doctor suggested I might have less interstitial fat than most people, which explains a few other health effects.

I'm not bragging, there are serious downsides, but it's absolutely possible to sit at 10% year-round, just not while maintaining any serious level of elevated muscle mass.

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Post by [deleted] »

CJefferson wrote: post #113

I think the hungry bit is often under-discussed. I lost 75kg over 3 years, then put exactly 75kg back on over the 4 years after that. While losing weight, and keeping it off (for about 6 months), I was hungry all the time, every day. I hoped that my body would eventually "get used" to the new standard, but in the end (not conciously), I gave up -- it was too mentally tiring to be hungry whenever I was awake. I'm sure…

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Post by atom-morgan »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #289
pc86 wrote: post #81

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Nonsense. What I mean is, the fact that you have muscle mass and stop lifting is not what's going to lead to "a quick onset of obesity." What leads to weight gain is still eating like you're lifting when you're not. If you adjust your caloric intake to account for your new level of caloric expenditure, you will not gain weight, although you will likely see unfavorable body composition changes.

> What leads to weight gain is still eating like you're lifting when you're not. Yeah, that's what I meant. So it is not nonsense.

Those are two vastly different statements. Your original statement is still nonsense.
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