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Amazon admits giving police Ring camera footage without consent
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You should keep your cat inside and not leave it free to roam the neighborhood killing wildlife, and then going to disturb your neighbors when it does exactly what a cat does and runs away.
I wasn't asking for your opinion or your judgement.
Neither were your neighbors.
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I guess if you don’t have prowler or package theft problems, they aren’t really necessary. I personally have found my Nest cameras indispensable. Ironically, if police would just do their job on property crime, they wouldn’t be so needed.
>Ironically, if police would just do their job on property crime, they wouldn’t be so needed. if the last several years have taught us anything its that police only do there jobs when they feel like it. whether that processing rape kits, stopping gunmen, stopping property theft, doesn't matter that wont do it.
Police do not decide what rape kits are processed, prosecutors do.
There are a variety of reasons kits are not processed, including the victim not cooperating, the accused confesses or dies in prison, there turns out to not be a case (such as: victim claims Bob raped them, but Bob was at dinner with someone else and his phone/credit card records confirm it, and so on.)
Prosecutors don't just go "fuck women, don't test these kits lying around!" despite what you might be led to believe by a lot of folks trying to generate outrage.
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When police are incredibly understaffed, they don’t do their job because they don’t have many to do it. Granted, everyone is understaffed these days, so it’s not just a police problem, and prosecutor/judges in my county make things harder for them by auto releasing the property-crime offenders they do catch (doesn’t matter if they have 10 warrants for times they didn’t return to court after being released from previo…
> incredibly understaffed That's adorable.
Yeah, our court system is vastly underfunded...police generally aren't, though some departments are having enormous difficulty finding qualified people who want to work for them.
Ironically and sadly, it becoming such a hated profession means we really don't want the people who are willing to do it. It's a grave they dug themselves, though.
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I wasn't asking for your opinion or your judgement.
Neither were your neighbors.
I haven't been offering my judgement or opinion to or on my neighbours. My judgement is on the device, and to be honest, I might well have installed one of these devices without realising how it may make others feel.
The story about the cat was just a background line to give context for why I was calling on my neighbours, but it could be any number of reasons, I might even have been saying hello after moving into the area. That's not enough information for you to judge, or to know that we picked up the cat as a stray and took it in, but it is very much an outdoor cat and we're ok with that - it is after all, where we found it.
Are you always so judgemental and critical?
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Well, no, not exactly. The ring is an always-on camera. My phone is not that. My phone may leak some information about me, and its basic job (cell phone) provides a record of location data, but that's not the same thing as forcibly making a home security device into part of a police state panopticon.
Are you sure your phone microphone isn't always on? At the very least your voice assistant is listening all the time to detect the trigger word (does this send the voice to the cloud for AI assisted detection?). Also if you search for articles about Ultrasonic Beacons, they imply adware tech is listening all the time too.
I am, in part because I don't use the trigger word functionality.
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>Ironically, if police would just do their job on property crime, they wouldn’t be so needed. if the last several years have taught us anything its that police only do there jobs when they feel like it. whether that processing rape kits, stopping gunmen, stopping property theft, doesn't matter that wont do it.
When police are incredibly understaffed, they don’t do their job because they don’t have many to do it. Granted, everyone is understaffed these days, so it’s not just a police problem, and prosecutor/judges in my county make things harder for them by auto releasing the property-crime offenders they do catch (doesn’t matter if they have 10 warrants for times they didn’t return to court after being released from previo…
These problems predate the pandemic and fallowing recession, trying to blame it on the immediate labor shortage is unreasonable.
And since when has being weak on crime every gotten a judge of prosecutor elected in this country? Politicians go out of their way as a mater of course to look tough on crime to the point that it a problem of its own.
no offense intended, (maybe you have some inside knowledge and perspective that I don't) but this seems to be a little disingenuous to say the least.
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There are alternative cameras that don't have the same privacy concerns.
Yup. I absolutely love my cameras. I wouldn't have set them up without a home server to isolate them, though.
The problem with those is they're easily stolen during a home invasion.
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There are alternative cameras that don't have the same privacy concerns.
Nest has the best experience as far as I can tell. The person recognition works fairly well, so I’m not getting alerts for every rabbit or blown tree branch that wanders into view.
Nest is also my favorite. I just wish they didn't completely abandon the main Nest app and didn't force the inferior and convoluted Google Home app as the mandatory app necessary for the latest gen cameras. Such a squandered opportunity.
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Can you recommend some?
Reolink have cameras which keep the video local, but support RTSP and can upload video to an FTP server (old school, I know) of your choice. I run my own FTP server and keep the video streams in DigitalOcean spaces with a 24 hours object expiration policy, fairly cheap NVR.
Reolink can work with Synology, I believe.