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Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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Post by porknubbins »

the_af wrote: post #7
brikil wrote: post #3

> When its live-action reboot failed last year Did it fail? I enjoyed it! I don’t stay up to date with the critics though. Hope this doesn't mean the second season won’t get made.

It failed and got canceled by Netflix. Now, I know getting canceled by Netflix means little. I gave this show a chance, after being impressed with the intro sequence remake, but found it to be soulless. Maybe Cowboy Bebop just doesn't translate to live action; what seemed charming in the original was played for kitsch in the remake. I couldn't even make it to the last episodes.

I thought Jet was great, Spike and Faye were just ok, Vicious was absolutely terrible and since the main villain was basically played for comic relief it kept the show from having any real emotional impact or gravitas.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

libraryatnight wrote: post #9
brikil wrote: post #3

> When its live-action reboot failed last year Did it fail? I enjoyed it! I don’t stay up to date with the critics though. Hope this doesn't mean the second season won’t get made.

Show was an abomination. Hard to watch. And yes it's one of Netflix's smarter cancellations.

Huge fan of the anime and watched the original USA airings… couldn’t make it two episodes into this. Something about it was very off.

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Post by KennyBlanken »

To anyone who watched the disaster that was the netflix live adaptation and was put off - please try the original anime. It's a masterpiece. Animation, characters, storytelling, soundtrack - it's all top shelf.

The original intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-D9LrFJd4

The English dub is better than most, and if you really can't deal with subtitles, go for it - but the original voice actors were some of the best and there's so much there, it's a bit of a shame to miss out on it if you can tolerate reading the subtitles.

It's easy to find the dubbed first episode of the anime series online on youtube, if anyone wants to get their feet wet.

I still don't know what Netflix was thinking, trying to take on one of the most beloved and respected animes ever made, and giving it the budget and casting of a SyFy Channel C-grade doomsday movie.

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Post by ge96 »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #13

To anyone who watched the disaster that was the netflix live adaptation and was put off - please try the original anime. It's a masterpiece. Animation, characters, storytelling, soundtrack - it's all top shelf. The original intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-D9LrFJd4 The English dub is better than most, and if you really can't deal with subtitles, go for it - but the original voice actors were some of the best…

Yeah I'm fortunate I found it 10+ yrs ago. Great sci fi concepts/scenes.

I still rewatch certain episodes every now and then.

That and the Gundam/Macross series.

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Post by yaomtc »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #13

To anyone who watched the disaster that was the netflix live adaptation and was put off - please try the original anime. It's a masterpiece. Animation, characters, storytelling, soundtrack - it's all top shelf. The original intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-D9LrFJd4 The English dub is better than most, and if you really can't deal with subtitles, go for it - but the original voice actors were some of the best…

This is a very rare example of an anime where I prefer the dub to the original audio. Not only was the casting and acting excellent, but they even went the extra mile in the mixing and environmental audio, which was fine in the original but even improved in the dub.

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KennyBlanken wrote: post #13

To anyone who watched the disaster that was the netflix live adaptation and was put off - please try the original anime. It's a masterpiece. Animation, characters, storytelling, soundtrack - it's all top shelf. The original intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-D9LrFJd4 The English dub is better than most, and if you really can't deal with subtitles, go for it - but the original voice actors were some of the best…

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Post by cyberlurker »

brikil wrote: post #3

> When its live-action reboot failed last year Did it fail? I enjoyed it! I don’t stay up to date with the critics though. Hope this doesn't mean the second season won’t get made.

I also enjoyed it for what it was. I was easily able to make it through the entire season and also would have liked a second season.

The anime is one of the best of all time though, so I understand why people had high expectations.

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Post by KennyBlanken »

the_af wrote: post #7
brikil wrote: post #3

> When its live-action reboot failed last year Did it fail? I enjoyed it! I don’t stay up to date with the critics though. Hope this doesn't mean the second season won’t get made.

It failed and got canceled by Netflix. Now, I know getting canceled by Netflix means little. I gave this show a chance, after being impressed with the intro sequence remake, but found it to be soulless. Maybe Cowboy Bebop just doesn't translate to live action; what seemed charming in the original was played for kitsch in the remake. I couldn't even make it to the last episodes.

Yep. Everything shouted "see, we did that thing from the anime, everyone! WINK-U FACE-U!" and on top of that, it was a jumbled mess because instead of just adapting the story, they had the audacity to "re-imagine" it. Fans love the series because it's such masterpiece of storytelling and it had amazing production quality.

It's like taking pasta, tomatoes, cheese, olive oil, raw chicken breast, etc and throwing them in a blender, tossing the paste into a pan and baking it, and being amazed that you somehow didn't reproduce a mouth-watering delicious chicken Parmesan.

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