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FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by xibo9 »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #94
superkuh wrote: post #26

The problem, in the USA for most people, is Comcast. Downspeed hardly matters. It's been plenty for decades. Upload speed has stagnated. I uploaded as fast in 2003 as I do now in 2022. And as others have said, it's not so much about 1 fast provider as many providers and choice. In my comcast monopoly my plan started at $60/mo in 2011 and without any changes on my end and no change in my upload speed that price has in…

The problem is lack of competition. My father gets outstanding service at his house in RI because he can switch to about 3 providers. When he threatens to cancel they know he means it. I get fisted by Cuckcast up here in NH because they're the only choice.

Have you heard from Fidium yet in your community? I know they haven't got coverage everywhere yet, but its surprising how quickly they have been backfilling. Plus, fully symmetrical 1 gigabit/sec under $100/mo has been nice.

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by ed25519FUUU »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #86
dubswithus wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My parents live 4 miles from the nearest city in a rural area. Someone paid for a fiber line and my parents got a free install because it crossed the property. Before this they were using a microwave antenna and getting 10 megabit.

These days, fixed wireless mmwave antennas can do 300-1Gbps symmetrical for about $100 per antenna.

What services are providing at those prices?

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by abawany »

gnicholas wrote: post #4

I'd rather have two providers that offers 25Mbps than one that offers 100Mbps. I don't need 100, or even 50. But Comcast has been jacking up their prices, along with increasing the minimum speed available, for years. They respond to government regulations like these. I'm now paying 2x what I used to (from $25 to $50/mo), and getting 2x the speed. But I don't want to be forced to buy 2x the speed (or even faster, as t…

have you considered looking into the 5g home offerings from Verizon and TMobile? In my area Spectrum was having a fine time jacking up rates unfettered and laughing at me when I asked to reduce them. I switched to Verizon 5G Home and when I called Spectrum to cancel, they practically begged me to stay (edit: I didn't) and have now adjusted their rates to match Vzw/Tmo; of course these reduced rates are only good for one year because they are Spectrum, and there is no cure.

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by xibo9 »

brianwawok wrote: post #78
harikb wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I have heard, they could choose to use N out of M channels for either upload or download and they are choosing to keep it the way it is. Probably they need to keep it that way for other reasons (their own cable-TV signal goes through it). But I know nothing about the electronics/signal-processing involved, so I could be totally wrong.

Mostly to slow torrent seeders. A fat up pipe and no data limit means TB after TB go to seed torrents. Otherwise for 90% of users, 90% of their traffic is download. Me legit pushing a 2GB docker image gets hit in the crossfire,

One might say that the state of the art has been chained up with awful upload speeds. Where you can think of one possible application, I can think of more, and undoubtedly there are even more that don't occur to people because it doesn't enter their experience. Being able to do practical off-site backups from home, even snapshots on an hourly basis? That'd be the dream. Oh wait, I'm doing that now because I have 1 gigabit/sec upstream at home!

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by jfoutz »

imoverclocked wrote: post #97
superkuh wrote: post #26

The problem, in the USA for most people, is Comcast. Downspeed hardly matters. It's been plenty for decades. Upload speed has stagnated. I uploaded as fast in 2003 as I do now in 2022. And as others have said, it's not so much about 1 fast provider as many providers and choice. In my comcast monopoly my plan started at $60/mo in 2011 and without any changes on my end and no change in my upload speed that price has in…

> But I don't have a choice. It doesn't matter how good, or bad, Comcast is. They're the only game in town. To extend that, Comcast is on my street but refuses to run a line up to my house because they consider it to be too cost prohibitive. At the same time, they block anyone else from making money in my region. I'm stuck with whatever cell signal I can acquire and that is as good as 5mbps during the day and might d…

somewhat cynical, but I think effective.

Look into wireless internet service provider gear and mesh networks. It won't be faster than Comcast. 50Mbit maybe. Make flyers and talk to your neighbors. Call around and ask about pricing for fiber backhauls.

Of course you don't want to run your own ISP. But, you could. It's not really that hard. Your neighbors could chip in for gear and be part owners. or a co-op or whatever.

If you can create a plausible threat to the $5000 a month they're collecting around you, I suspect they'll greatly enhance performance in your area, and might even offer to connect you up.

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by thayne »

superkuh wrote: post #26

The problem, in the USA for most people, is Comcast. Downspeed hardly matters. It's been plenty for decades. Upload speed has stagnated. I uploaded as fast in 2003 as I do now in 2022. And as others have said, it's not so much about 1 fast provider as many providers and choice. In my comcast monopoly my plan started at $60/mo in 2011 and without any changes on my end and no change in my upload speed that price has in…

And in the new world of a lot more people working remotely, upload speeds are suddenly a lot more important. Mostly because of viseo conferences, but transferring other kinds of data too.

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by abawany »

rgbrenner wrote: post #95
gnicholas wrote: post #4

I'd rather have two providers that offers 25Mbps than one that offers 100Mbps. I don't need 100, or even 50. But Comcast has been jacking up their prices, along with increasing the minimum speed available, for years. They respond to government regulations like these. I'm now paying 2x what I used to (from $25 to $50/mo), and getting 2x the speed. But I don't want to be forced to buy 2x the speed (or even faster, as t…

Would two providers solve anything? There are 3 cell phone companies and they’re all virtually the same price.

In my area, the arrival of 5g home wireless providers caused some fast downshifts in price by att and spectrum, albeit for introductory pricing.

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

#108

Post by kube-system »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #102
radicaldreamer wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days, fixed wireless mmwave antennas can do 300-1Gbps symmetrical for about $100 per antenna.

What services are providing at those prices?

Nobody, they’re talking about the antenna(/radio) itself.

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

#109

Post by cagey »

I'm trying to figure out what the likely outcome of this proposal will if enacted be, mapping to my tenuous but sufficient home internet service.

Is my current best-choice provider (TMO 5g Home internet) going to boost my speeds from current 10-100/1-10 Mbps dn/up to a solid floor of 100/20Mbs or lose Federal funding?

Or, will TMO receive more Federal funding to bring me up to a solid 100/20Mbs floor?

Or, will TMO classify my service as something other than "broadband" and continue to provide unchanged QoS?

Or, will TMo drop customers such as myself "on the performance margins" of their service (instead of boosting tower capacity)?

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Post by justinjlynn »

jfoutz wrote: post #105
imoverclocked wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I don't have a choice. It doesn't matter how good, or bad, Comcast is. They're the only game in town. To extend that, Comcast is on my street but refuses to run a line up to my house because they consider it to be too cost prohibitive. At the same time, they block anyone else from making money in my region. I'm stuck with whatever cell signal I can acquire and that is as good as 5mbps during the day and might d…

somewhat cynical, but I think effective. Look into wireless internet service provider gear and mesh networks. It won't be faster than Comcast. 50Mbit maybe. Make flyers and talk to your neighbors. Call around and ask about pricing for fiber backhauls. Of course you don't want to run your own ISP. But, you could. It's not really that hard. Your neighbors could chip in for gear and be part owners. or a co-op or whateve…

Either that or they'll send a C&D and then file multiple lawsuits to strategically prevent others from having the same idea, sure.
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