The case against CS master’s degrees

I'm currently getting my BS in Computer Science with the University of Florida's Online Program, and I think that there is a duality between academic CS and applied CS, where the overlap is massive but college isn't particularly required. I find that many courses and tutorials online cover the topics well. Although these non-degree courses may not be of equal rigour, I leave them understanding the fundamentals needed to succeed in say an internship. By self teaching, I have proven that I know enough in my Freshman year of college to acquire an internship.

That being said, I think that someone with CS knowledge is always going to be more valuable than someone without. I really like teachyourselfcs, while in high school I skimmed a lot of the material preparing for what I had in store. I think that it's entirely possible to get good at CS with this method, but the issue is feedback and the stress associated with self teaching. Self teaching isn't always so glamorous as it is made out to be, a lot of people need the backbone of an actual program with structure than be thrown into a text book with courses that may go along with said text book. I think that entirely dismissing degree programs is equally as unwise as saying they're required, there is a lot of gray between the lines and I think that people should approach the issue with their strengths and weaknesses in mind.

Maybe 10 years ago I would have been impressed with any candidate with a masters from a legit CS department.

However, in the last 5 years I've worked with numerous engineers with masters from both "prestigious" universities and also the typical "cash-cow" degrees that are so common today.

One of my previous devs had a masters from a "public-ivy" in computer science, and he honestly was not qualified for anything more than basic CRUD "enterprise". Hate to say it, but he was obviously pushed through the system due to his race and the need for these schools to fill diversity quotas.

Also, I knew a public school middle school teacher - she was bright but had no formal math or engineering or CS education beyond basic algebra with her teaching degree, no programming experience, etc. But she had been able to obtain a masters in CS from a top 10 program via some "Masters in CS for Public School Teachers" program. I also took a few masters courses from this university, and they were extremely difficult, even for me who has a lot of experience and a solid CS bachelors.

For example, some of the qualifying courses included programming MIPS in assembly language, binary numbering systems, algorithms with assumed knowledge of Big O, data structures, dynamic programming, etc. There is no way anyone without both a good undergrad CS degree and some dev experience could legitimately pass these courses, especially when the program was meant to be done by professionals who were already experienced developers at night / weekends - so I assume she was pushed through with a "wink wink" from the administration.

Finally, the hordes of foreign students getting degrees from cash-cow programs in order to remain in the US or obtain OPT visas ensure that nobody respects a Masters in CS anymore. Now that most of these are online, they're even less legit as you know these programs are plagued with cheating, fraud, etc.

They also have an ms of cybersecurity. Depending on the track you take, it can end up being 9/10 the same classes needed for the CS degree.

I’m currently enrolled and will say the networking is the best part. I’ve found a group of about 50 people in a private slack scattered all over the world. We all bounce things off each other.

I would do a masters degree if it could help me be more creative and synthesize new ideas.

Does OMSCS do this?

The IT bar to entry the industry is lower than it used to be so you really do not need CS degree to become a developer, I think that with a time as the supply of these workers increases the value of University degrees will be restored as well as the meaning of a term of engineer.