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People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Post by jacamera »

CJefferson wrote: post #113

I think the hungry bit is often under-discussed. I lost 75kg over 3 years, then put exactly 75kg back on over the 4 years after that. While losing weight, and keeping it off (for about 6 months), I was hungry all the time, every day. I hoped that my body would eventually "get used" to the new standard, but in the end (not conciously), I gave up -- it was too mentally tiring to be hungry whenever I was awake. I'm sure…

Did you ever try fasting for an extended period of time during any of that? I've never gone more than ~48 hours but from what I've watched and read, people seem to stop feeling hungry after say four or five days. I wonder if that could maybe act as a sort of hard reset for the constant feeling of hunger you experienced.

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Post by seabrookmx »

drakonka wrote: post #93

I wish the "running hot" part was true for me. I feel cold so easily, to the point that I had to get myself checked out this year since my toes would go numb at the slightest chill. The hunger thing rings true, though. I often just forget to eat and end up eating one meal a day or maybe a meal and a snack. Then again, on other days I might snack through the whole day. It seems to balance out though; after a day of fr…

That sounds like Raynaud's.

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Post by projectazorian »

chrisseaton wrote: post #86
klyrs wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've known very active cyclists that couldn't lose weight despite riding hundred mile rides weekly. In my youth, I could eat anything and do nothing and not suffer the consequences. I definitely fit the "run hot" part but I was the plate-cleaner in my family and didn't really stop eating like that until I was in my late 30s and suddenly started gaining weight.

> I've known very active cyclists that couldn't lose weight despite riding hundred mile rides weekly. Isn’t this against the laws of physics? If you’re burning a ton of energy and not eating excessively, where are their bodies getting mass from to maintain weight?

Doing tons of endurance cardio gives you massive carb cravings and catabolizes muscle mass, slowing your metabolism. Especially when none of it is max effort. To keep your body fat percentage low and metabolism up you really need to combine endurance cardio with high intensity cardio and strength training. This is why things like Crossfit and HIIT are so popular.

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Post by bradser »

dghughes wrote: post #128

My weight was a consistent 150 pounds since I was 14 years old. I joked to myself I was a robot since it was incredibly consistent for decades. I would often go entire days without eating. My family says as a kid or teen I would always cover my food with a napkin to hide what I had not eaten. Even as an adult I would rarely eat a fast food combo there would be half the burger and fries left over. I ate what I need ev…

If anyone has been on synthroid and it stops working for you, check with your doctor about switching to natural desiccated thyroid, made a big difference for me. Also see if avoiding goitrogenic foods works for you (like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruciferous_vegetables); keeping a food diary for a few months proved to me how impactful they are for me, YMMV.

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Post by jliptzin »

the_only_law wrote: post #35

Seems to line up with my experience, am always burning up (until I turn on the AC and freeze) Especially at night though I have to to jack the temperature down or I won't sleep. Also less hungry aligns pretty well. Unfortunately when I get hungry, it's normally "a little hungry) at akward spread out intervals. I probably feel most hungry after midnight but never eat then because well, I have to sleep soon. I've tried…

Same for me. Even as Ive tried to gain weight, my weight barely budged. 150-155 for at least the last 10 years. I have obese (300lb+) friends and they insist they don’t eat that much more than me. Except they do. We go out to eat, we stop eating after about 5-10 min. I’m full and done. They burp a couple times, then proceed to keep eating, smothering everything in Mayo and bbq sauce. Then they get insane desserts. And maybe 3-4 sodas in one meal on top of that. I do feel bad for them though, since it looks like that’s really what it takes to satiate their hunger. I could not physically eat that much even if I wanted to though.

Another strange thing about my body (if anyone cares, curious if anyone else has the same thing) is that I don’t burp, ever. I think the air I swallow while eating forms a bubble in my stomach that makes me feel full sooner and prevents overeating.

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Post by winrid »

dghughes wrote: post #128

My weight was a consistent 150 pounds since I was 14 years old. I joked to myself I was a robot since it was incredibly consistent for decades. I would often go entire days without eating. My family says as a kid or teen I would always cover my food with a napkin to hide what I had not eaten. Even as an adult I would rarely eat a fast food combo there would be half the burger and fries left over. I ate what I need ev…

Have you considered a diet like Keto? This may help your potentially insulin related issues.

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

zhynn wrote: post #74
sudden_dystopia wrote: post #42

The study was underweight bmi vs healthy bmi. Nothing about overweight bmi, which I would assume is the trifecta of overeating, little activity, and slower metabolism. At least that is my personal experience in going from overweight to healthy bmi. Really not surprising that people that eat less have lower bmi and higher metabolism than people that eat more with a slower metabolism but who are more active.

you missed the important point, IMO: being hungry. it's bizarre that we can be mechanically and nutritionally full yet still be hungry. These low BMI individuals were not hungry. WTF is going on with the hunger response being so messed up in a huge segment of the population?

Hunger is not only about not getting enough food, it’s about not getting enough of the right type of food for you genetically.

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Post by lancesells »

windowsrookie wrote: post #76
the_only_law wrote: post #35

Seems to line up with my experience, am always burning up (until I turn on the AC and freeze) Especially at night though I have to to jack the temperature down or I won't sleep. Also less hungry aligns pretty well. Unfortunately when I get hungry, it's normally "a little hungry) at akward spread out intervals. I probably feel most hungry after midnight but never eat then because well, I have to sleep soon. I've tried…

Interesting. I stay thin because I'm always watching what I eat and keep a mental note of how many calories I've had that day. If I'm trying to lose a few pounds I have to actually record my calories so I know when to stop eating. I can eat pretty much non-stop. I could eat a large pizza myself, and 30 minutes later eat another. The grass is always greener. Some people wish they could eat as much as me so they could…

I'm the same. I stick to ~2000 calories a day and know that each pound is around ~3500 calories. If I gain some and want to take it off I'll work out a little more and know that any deficit contributes to taking away part of the ~3500 cals.

I don't obsess over this but it'll help me cut out some snacks or put in an extra mile or two on my runs (which is supposed to be around ~100 calories). Everyone is different but looking at weight loss/gain as an equation works for me if I notice my pants getting tighter.

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