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People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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"The investigators acknowledge some limitations on this research, including the fact that although they measured food intake, *they didn't measure what the participants were actually eating or their feelings of satiation or satiety*."

This seems to directly contradict the title.

EDIT: What food they are eating and how satiating that food may be is irrelevant. They did not measure the participants feelings of satiation or satiety. The title can't claim that the lower BMI people feel less hungry if you don't measure how hungry they feel.

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"We expected to find that these people are really active and to have high activity metabolic rates matched by high food intakes," says corresponding author John Speakman, a professor at the Shenzhen Institutes of Advanced Technology in China and the University of Aberdeen in the UK. "It turns out that something rather different is going on. They had lower food intakes and lower activity, as well as surprisingly higher-than-expected resting metabolic rates linked to elevated levels of their thyroid hormones."

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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post #2

"The investigators acknowledge some limitations on this research, including the fact that although they measured food intake, *they didn't measure what the participants were actually eating or their feelings of satiation or satiety*." This seems to directly contradict the title. EDIT: What food they are eating and how satiating that food may be is irrelevant . They did not measure the participants feelings of satiati…

I think they are saying the caloric intake was measured, but they didn’t distinguish between what kind of food the calories were coming from:

> The participants were monitored for two weeks. Their food intake was measured with an isotope-based technique called the doubly-labeled water method, which assesses energy expenditure based on the difference between the turnover rates of hydrogen and oxygen in body water as a function of carbon dioxide production. Their physical activity was measured using an accelerometry-based motion detector.

Also regarding the specific food choices:

> The team is now expanding its research, including studies that include these measures. They also plan to look at genetic differences between normal weight and healthy underweight individuals. Preliminary analysis suggests single nucleotide polymorphisms in certain genes that might play a role.

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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"We expected to find that these people are really active and to have high activity metabolic rates matched by high food intakes," says corresponding author John Speakman, a professor at the Shenzhen Institutes of Advanced Technology in China and the University of Aberdeen in the UK. "It turns out that something rather different is going on. They had lower food intakes and lower activity, as well as surprisingly highe…

Makes me wonder, if thyroid disorders can cause obesity, can thyroid-modifying therapy or exogenous thyroid hormones treat obesity?

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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"The investigators acknowledge some limitations on this research, including the fact that although they measured food intake, *they didn't measure what the participants were actually eating or their feelings of satiation or satiety*." This seems to directly contradict the title. EDIT: What food they are eating and how satiating that food may be is irrelevant . They did not measure the participants feelings of satiati…

I think they are saying the caloric intake was measured, but they didn’t distinguish between what kind of food the calories were coming from: > The participants were monitored for two weeks. Their food intake was measured with an isotope-based technique called the doubly-labeled water method, which assesses energy expenditure based on the difference between the turnover rates of hydrogen and oxygen in body water as a…

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Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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post #2

"The investigators acknowledge some limitations on this research, including the fact that although they measured food intake, *they didn't measure what the participants were actually eating or their feelings of satiation or satiety*." This seems to directly contradict the title. EDIT: What food they are eating and how satiating that food may be is irrelevant . They did not measure the participants feelings of satiati…

I think they are saying the caloric intake was measured, but they didn’t distinguish between what kind of food the calories were coming from: > The participants were monitored for two weeks. Their food intake was measured with an isotope-based technique called the doubly-labeled water method, which assesses energy expenditure based on the difference between the turnover rates of hydrogen and oxygen in body water as a…

I don't see how that has any impact on my point.

title: "People with low BMI aren't more active, *they are just less hungry*, 'run hotter'"

quotation: "they didn't measure what the participants were actually eating or *their feelings of satiation or satiety*"

The title is factually untrue. You can't claim that people with lower BMI "are just less hungry" if you don't measure how hungry they feel.

Re: People with low BMI aren't more active, they are just less hungry, 'run hotter'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they are saying the caloric intake was measured, but they didn’t distinguish between what kind of food the calories were coming from: > The participants were monitored for two weeks. Their food intake was measured with an isotope-based technique called the doubly-labeled water method, which assesses energy expenditure based on the difference between the turnover rates of hydrogen and oxygen in body water as a…

I don't see how that has any impact on my point. title: "People with low BMI aren't more active, *they are just less hungry*, 'run hotter'" quotation: "they didn't measure what the participants were actually eating or *their feelings of satiation or satiety*" The title is factually untrue. You can't claim that people with lower BMI "are just less hungry" if you don't measure how hungry they feel.

Depending what you eat, it's possible to basically eat all you want and still lose weight. One example is learning to love non-carb foods - eat all the antipasto salad and steak you like (expensive AF yes).

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Is this paper peer-reviewed?

Does it matter? Many scientists in the know say that peer review is as good as a trashy spam filter these days. This isn't to say that it is absolutely useless, more that it is very overrated.
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