The Darknet Project: netroots activists dream of global mesh network • Hacker News Board

Re: The Darknet Project: netroots activists dream of global mesh network

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Post by otoburb » Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 4:11 AM UTC

It would be pretty interesting if Republic Wireless allowed their phones to connect to the Darknet. There'd be no technical reason why they wouldn't, except perhaps they'd need to beef up their cheap Android phones with mesh protocols to form their own nodes.

(Referenced HN thread that also happens to be on the front page: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3208563)

Re: The Darknet Project: netroots activists dream of global mesh network

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Post by sliverstorm » Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 6:13 AM UTC

bh42222 wrote: post #43

wmf wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, another interpretation is that darknets are not needed in the US because you can use the regular Internet for free expression.

Like donating to whistleblowing websites like WikiLeaks.

A darknet would make VISA do what you want?

Re: The Darknet Project: netroots activists dream of global mesh network

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Post by aptwebapps » Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 9:12 AM UTC

jxcole wrote: post #49

sneak wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is no way to back track traffic and discover who sent the request. If you control a vast majority of the nodes, this is simply incorrect.

Sort of. The only way to tell if a person made a request is if you control all the nodes that this person is connected to. If you do not control even one node that a person is connected to, there is always the possibility that the request came from this other node, not the real node. This is because the difference between making a request for something on your behalf and making the request on someone else's behalf lo…

I think 100% certainty that a node is the originator of a request is not necessary for most purposes. If you are thinking of a court case, then maybe, but only if there is no corroborative evidence.

And in other situations where people might want to use a darknet (e.g. a repressive regime) a few false positives aren't going to bother anyone concerned.

Re: The Darknet Project: netroots activists dream of global mesh network

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Post by DennisP » Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 2:40 PM UTC

Locke1689 wrote: post #41

tomjen3 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Between cities? In the cars of people who bring their laptop with them home from work. Across oceans? Never underestimate the speed of a ten foot container filled with 2 terabyte harddrive :)

Never underestimate the speed of a ten foot container filled with 2 terabyte harddrive No. Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck filled with harddrives. Always underestimate the speed of said truck. Networking is easy when latency doesn't matter. Unfortunately, it does.

Latency matters sometimes. I'm an old-fashioned guy who still subscribes to a lot of blogs, and for that, a few days of latency is irrelevant to me.