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Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by r721 »

gdy wrote: post #10
mmastrac wrote: post #6

From what little I unfortunately saw from him on twitter, this guy is the Russian equivalent of a hardcore Nazi.

What do you mean specifically?

Here's a recent episode (he was banned from Twitter for that):

"Dmitry Rogozin (Director General of Russia’s Roskosmos State Space Agency, former Deputy Prime Minister) – comments on his Twitter feed and Telegram channel (June 13, 2022)

“In general, what has grown up in the place of Ukraine is an existential threat to the Russian people, Russian history, Russian language and Russian civilization. If we do not put an end to them, as, unfortunately, our grandfathers did not do away with them, we will have to die, but end up at an even greater cost to our grandchildren. So let’s get this over with. Once and forever. For our grandchildren.”"

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rh...

He also was a leader of right-wing party Rodina in early 2000s, see more details in Wikipedia:

>Under Rogozin, Rodina shifted towards the right wing of Russian politics and became the second largest and one of the country's most successful parties. A number of controversies on Rogozin's policies culminated in it being banned in 2005 from standing for election to the Moscow City Duma for using what was considered as chauvinist slogan 'Let's Clean the Garbage!'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Rogozin#Early_career

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by bvrmn »

gdy wrote: post #18
bvrmn wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rogozin is a member of ultra-right movement. Like real "Russia for russians" and similar BS.

I haven't heard anything like that from him for 15 years.

With new assignment we definitely hear something about non-existing Ukrainian nation. There is no such thing like former nazi.

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by lotusmars »

orbital-decay wrote: post #16
mmastrac wrote: post #6

From what little I unfortunately saw from him on twitter, this guy is the Russian equivalent of a hardcore Nazi.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. The guy is a long-time far right activist (and a journo by education and trade, no connections to aerospace whatsoever). His twitter reflects that perfectly, at least in Russian. His appointment as a head of space industry was unexpected, to put it mildly, especially at the time when Kremlin was stomping on nationalists.

Yeah, he was heading actual Nazi parades. There are enough videos on YouTube with him at the rallies wearing a leather jacket with saluting neo-Nazis around. He also uses N-words and F-words freely.

He first gained notoriety at 2003 parliament elections leading a pro-Putin ultranationalist party Rodina.

One of Rodina’s TV ads were comparing Caucausus people to street trash.

People say though that Rogozin is not a big believer in anything, he’s just a huge cynical careerist coming from a very privileged nomenclature background riding any wave that brings him to the top. Right now he’s one of the major pro-war hawks.

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by saiya-jin »

stoobs wrote: post #11
NicoJuicy wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like a death sentence atm.

Yeah, that seems to be becoming the new "sent to Siberia", although I very much doubt he'll be placing himself directly in danger, unless he had no choice. Either way, he picked his poison long ago.

He doesn't have to expose himself directly, any occupant or even local in russia's puppet government will be a prime suspect to get removed permanently, as symbolic and also practical gesture. He will still need to travel, meet people etc. and no hiding in bunker will be allowed for such a person, that's only reserved for putin.

There is already vicious spiral of oppression and resistance happening on those parts of Ukraine. He could be +-safe with protection on level of US president, but he won't have that. There are only few situations worse than to be considered occupant or traitor in place like current Ukraine.

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by The_suffocated »

elliekelly wrote: post #17
theflyinghorse wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gave you that impression? I seldom hear of him, but it's usually in the context of him writing something silly on twitte

I'm not the person you're replying to but Rogozin is an actual neo-Nazi: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-racist/russian-ult... Someone else in this thread linked a video of him giving the Nazi salute (is there a name for this?) after his speech at the rally mentioned in the Reuters article. I can't think of any reason someone would attend or speak at such an event, let alone salute like that at such an even…

The Nazi salute is called the “Bellamy salute” ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute ), which actually was an American invention.

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by WinstonSmith84 »

theflyinghorse wrote: post #8
mmastrac wrote: post #6

From what little I unfortunately saw from him on twitter, this guy is the Russian equivalent of a hardcore Nazi.

What gave you that impression? I seldom hear of him, but it's usually in the context of him writing something silly on twitte

You seldom hear of him, because you may not care much about Russian news. Check his Wikipedia which gives a very light overview. His Twitter is telling and he's more known for his political views than for his Space accomplishments.

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by vogre »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #7
ushakov wrote: post #2

he's switching jobs, apparently > according to Meduza’s sources, Dmitry Rogozin will become one of the Kremlin’s supervisors for the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk “people’s republics” and the other Russian-occupied territories in Ukraine https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/13/the-president-likes-...

Seems like a death sentence atm.

Or a great chance to show himself.

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by computronus »

ushakov wrote: post #2

he's switching jobs, apparently > according to Meduza’s sources, Dmitry Rogozin will become one of the Kremlin’s supervisors for the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk “people’s republics” and the other Russian-occupied territories in Ukraine https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/13/the-president-likes-...

Maybe he will bounce back with that new position.

(Ref: https://www.space.com/elon-musk-spacex-launch-trampoline-com...)

Re: Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos

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Post by lotusmars »

The_suffocated wrote: post #25
elliekelly wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not the person you're replying to but Rogozin is an actual neo-Nazi: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-racist/russian-ult... Someone else in this thread linked a video of him giving the Nazi salute (is there a name for this?) after his speech at the rally mentioned in the Reuters article. I can't think of any reason someone would attend or speak at such an event, let alone salute like that at such an even…

The Nazi salute is called the “Bellamy salute” ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute ), which actually was an American invention.

Ok here we go. Americans and Russians only talking about America. Let’s discuss that it was Bush behind Holocaust.
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