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Post by dcow »

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Have you lived in or visited a world city? The feel and vibe is very different. It's why New York is called the city that never sleeps. When you get dense enough, there's always something to do and people out wanting to do it or at least wanting to serve it to you.

Yes I have visited. I don't see any advantage to that.

It's not universally advantageous and I never said it was. I think you're missing my point. If someone is looking for a world city, there aren't very many in the US. I didn't say I am looking for them or that you should be looking for them. I am suggesting that the original commenter is looking for them and struggling to find them. My comment is simply that: a comment about how I'm surprised there aren't more world cities in the US.

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>for the same reason they don’t wear seatbelts and drive drunk everywhere. They just don’t care. This doesn't match my experience living in a rural area. Most of the people I knew either avoided drinking (your WASP) or drank with their neighbors (your redneck.)

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/Publication/8127...

Rural areas account for 19% of the population but 56% of the DUI fatalities. That means a 5.5x higher fatality rate per capita.

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Post by sokoloff »

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I wonder how much people think the typical flimsy locks on a residential door will actual stop someone who goes up to the door with the intention of entering. It would almost require someone to want to enter but iff the door was unlocked, which seems like a poor strategy for a burglar.

It's only a poor strategy in places where people lock their doors all the time.

If people lock their doors all the time, burglars probably prefer to avoid the houses with unlocked doors (because they are more likely to be occupied houses).

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Woof, the elitism in what you said was palpable. I’m in a rural area. I wear my seatbelt, along with everyone else I know. I don’t even drink. The only people I’ve ever known that have driven drunk were dumb teenagers. I lock my door, but I not only kept my high school car unlocked - I left the keys in it. For two years I did that, and the only time it was “stolen” was when my friends skipped class, used it to drive…

> I remember it being major news when a few houses were burgled when I was a kid.

On a per capita basis "a few houses being burgled" in a rural area is probably more burglaries than NYC sees.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new...

You are less likely to be murdered in NYC than the average rural area. I don't know where you live and it's possible that your rural area is safer than average, but in general the myth that so many smug rural Americans subscribe to that the typical rural area is safer than big bad New York City is just totally, completely wrong.

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Post by birdyrooster »

sparc24 wrote: post #579
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The problem for me, as a long time NYC resident, is that there's no other place in America I want to live even with work from home as a possibility. I like mass transit. I like not owning a car. I like that the city is generally safer than the rest of America. I like that it's the center for tech on the east coast, the arts for the entire country, and finance for most of the world. I like that we generally get along…

Everyone should spend a couple of early years in NYC. You'll be better off for it even you end up moving to New Hampshire.

I’m not sure this scales

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Post by esoterica »

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> Whether or not you lock your door has more to do with cultural attitudes towards risk > People in rural areas don’t lock their doors for the same reason they don’t wear seatbelts and drive drunk everywhere. They just don’t care. Do you think the attitude towards risk is because they truly don't care about having their belongings stolen, or because they know there is less risk of that happening? Having lived in a ru…

> Do you think the attitude towards risk is because they truly don't care about having their belongings stolen, or because they know there is less risk of that happening?

Neither, they just take fewer mitigations in response to the same level of risk because of cultural habits.

America in general (both rural and urban) has a very high crime rate by developed world standards. I grew up in which has a lower crime rate than 99% of America, including the parts where people brag about how it's so safe that no one locks their doors, and everyone locks the doors to their houses and cars anyway, because that's just the cultural norm.

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Post by abeppu »

simonsarris wrote: post #436
ctvo wrote: post #390

The problem for me, as a long time NYC resident, is that there's no other place in America I want to live even with work from home as a possibility. I like mass transit. I like not owning a car. I like that the city is generally safer than the rest of America. I like that it's the center for tech on the east coast, the arts for the entire country, and finance for most of the world. I like that we generally get along…

> I like that the city is generally safer than the rest of America. Coming from New Hampshire: this is just fantastically untrue. NYC is about one hundred times more violent than where I live. It is so thoroughly not the same that I can usually tell when people come from cities simply based on how nervous they are. I think most people don't realize how badly it affects them, or how violent cities are versus "the rest…

Actually, how trustworthy are those stats as a measure of actual crime or safety? I think this effect might actually push the difference to be a bit more extreme; at least several years ago I know the NYPD had a scandal about systemically under-reporting or downgrading crimes. Has this _actually_ improved since then, or did they just "discipline" a handful of people? Do other law enforcement agencies have similar problems?

However, I do also think an important question is "safe for whom?" Depending on your race, sexual orientation, gender presentation, etc, rural American communities can foster their own distinct unease. Those are the places where you keep your head down, self-censor, try not to draw attention. When is the absence of reported crimes in a state which is 92.8% white "safety" and when is it something else?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-newyork-statistics/...

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Post by dcow »

GauntletWizard wrote: post #870
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Have you lived in or visited a world city? The feel and vibe is very different. It's why New York is called the city that never sleeps. When you get dense enough, there's always something to do and people out wanting to do it or at least wanting to serve it to you.

What else do you qualify as a world city? London is dead at 2AM except in a few specific areas, the tube shuts down. Paris as well. I think what you mean by "World City" is actually just "Party Zone".

Not sure if you've heard the term before but it's a real thing and it doesn't just mean "party zone": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city. More or less the effect of being a world city that's an economic/financial hub is that you have an emergent 24/7 network of services operational to support it.

> except in a few specific areas

Yeah that's what I meant. I don't mean "the whole city is awake". I mean that there are amenities available in certain areas more or less 24/7, because of the density, there is a critical mass of 2nd and 3rd shift workers, and other "off-hours" workers who have different schedules and make use of it.

For those interested, here's where the alpha beta gamma and -/ /+[+] classification system comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities...

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Post by jahnu »

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Housing =/= Land. But our policies which heavily kneecap our ability to build more [0] make it such that Housing starts behaving like Land. The solution is to build more, and the success of Vienna does not come from public intervention but from the added supply. Tokyo is another city with famously cheap housing, and the secret is that they make it easy to build. I personally think that achieving affordable housing pr…

> The solution is to build more, and the success of Vienna does not come from public intervention but from the added supply. Tokyo is another city with famously cheap housing, and the secret is that they make it easy to build. The other two secrets are tiny apartments (200-400 sqft), and an incredibly reliable public transportation system. Tokyo has a massive sprawl -- people can and do live far from their work. The…

400sqft is about 37m2 That’s pretty much the smallest apartment you’ll find in Vienna, and only for individuals living alone. But yes they are smaller than houses but mostly bigger than Manhattan family apartments :) Every family I know lives in about 80m2 to 120m2 and pays around 1000-2000 euros/month rent. Depending heavily on location and quality of course.

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My wife and I watched Chris Rock from the front row at the Comedy Cellar last summer. Total cost was like $75 with drinks. Absolutely incredible. I could watch every incredible stand up special available online and it wouldnt be anywhere close to that in person experience.

The big guys tour. It's the little guys that are interesting....

He was performing at the comedy cellar unannounced to a 50 person room...
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