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Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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Whats up with Manhattans South Precinct (the roughly square section south of Central Park? For just about all of the categories of crime on this map, it consistently ranks as the worst area in the whole city across all five boroughs. Seems weird for this to be happening in a core section of Manhattan itself.

It’s midtown so it’s a tourist hub. Tourists are more likely to be targeted for almost all crimes. Plus they report it more.

> Plus they report it more.

The implication there is that the areas with fewer tourists have higher true rates of crime than the official stats, which makes the overall case worse...

Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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The problem for me, as a long time NYC resident, is that there's no other place in America I want to live even with work from home as a possibility. I like mass transit. I like not owning a car. I like that the city is generally safer than the rest of America. I like that it's the center for tech on the east coast, the arts for the entire country, and finance for most of the world. I like that we generally get along…

Just to provide a 3rd party reaction here: it sounds like you've circularly reasoned yourself into a trap of your own making. You don't want to live anywhere else because you like NYC . Because no other city is exactly like NYC, you aren't interested in living anywhere else. The reason it's "circular" is because there are cities with good transit, good arts, great food, have a tech scene, and even have financial dist…

That seems like a silly criteria. How many people really care about doing things at 3:00 AM? We're talking about a small niche of shift workers and childless young people.

Las Vegas operates 24 hours a day if that's what you want.

Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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so the low-income workers should be required to commute into manhattan so they can take care of wealthy people?

They don’t need to go into Manhattan at all.

So then who does the low-income work in Manhattan?

Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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Recently moved to Seattle from NYC. I'm enjoying Seattle, but it's a joke of a city compared to NYC. Seattle's public transportation—while improving with light rail—pales in comparison. Seattle is, overall, pedestrian-hostile. There are neighborhoods that are themselves walkable, but sidewalks will disappear when walking between them, or you'll be forced into situations where you're uncomfortably close to high-speed…

> and they're probably not open late or even open at all early in the week (maybe this is a pandemic artifact; I moved here in 2021) No, it's a Seattle thing. One of my major peeves with this city (and entire region) is how hard it is to find places that close later than 9pm, even in the summer when the days are really long. I think the outdoors culture here is so strong that people don't really care about having thi…

Eh, I think it's kind of an "everywhere-since-the-pandemic" thing after all.

Atlanta is the same way and we used to have a HOPPIN' late night scene with SO many good late night spots, now it's almost a struggle to get something even like fast food after 9/10pm. That may be slowly coming back though it seems like.

Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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New York county (or borough) is Manhattan(for the most part), but that is talking about the city of New York, which includes Manhattan, Queens, Kings(~Brooklyn), Bronx, and Richmond(~Staten Island).

I wonder how many people think New York City is only Manhattan and not the 5 Boroughs together. For anyone who see this, yes it includes the “suburbs” that exists within all of the outer boroughs (even the Bronx!)

Funny...one of my favorite pastimes as a new yorker was collecting New York esoterica...a fun related one(relevant to my "for the most part" parenthetical in my original post) is the fact that Manhattan is an island and a borough, but part of the island is actually connected to the mainland in the Bronx.

Marble hill was once fully a part of the northernmost point of Manhattan island, but a canal was cut south of it which turned Marble hill into an actual island all by itself. Later, the waterway to the north of Marble hill was diverted into the canal, so Marble Hill became connected by land to the Bronx and separated by water from the island of Manhattan, but it is still considered a part of Manhattan borough...

Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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I love Warsaw and think I would personally really enjoy living there, but if the GP isn't willing to move to Boston, they're not going to like living in Warsaw. Much smaller then NY, much more homogeneous, not a major world center of arts or finance. There are very few cities in the world that check all the boxes he listed for NY, and they're all extremely expensive as well.

Exactly, although London certainly isn’t $5k

The pay is also a lot worse in London, for tech at least.

Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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I have a sneaking suspicion that New Yorkers who think NYC is safe are comparing it to 1980s NY, rather than contemporary $other_region. Or maybe they're only comparing themselves to Chicago and Rio de Janeiro?

I don’t know. I never felt generally unsafe in New York if I was out late at night (after midnight or 1am) and walking alone to the subway or whatever. Part of it I think is that the city “never sleeps” so you don’t get the feeling of being alone. There’s always other people around. (My mom felt differently and would often force me to take a car home if I was leaving the office at 10pm in NYC — but my mom would feel…

I think this is where statistics fails me. You (and a couple sibling comments) are responding to my comment with your experiences to the contrary, and I—never having lived in NYC—just don't have access to that.

This passage[1] probably sums up the difference between aggregate crime stats and NYC residents' own assessments:

> Looking at NYPD crime reports for 2010, 2015, and 2020, we find that about 1% of streets in NYC produce about 25% of crime, and about 5% of streets produce about 50% of crime. This is consistent across the three years, showing that a very small proportion of streets in the city are responsible for a significant proportion of the crime problem.

I wonder if this phenomenon is different in different cities. Are the "shapes" of crime all "spiky" in New York, but more spread out in Seattle?

[1] https://www.manhattan-institute.org/weisburd-zastrow-crime-h...

Re: Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time

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Garbage in, garbage out. People use these sorts of stats in Seattle to pretend that crime hasn’t gotten worse in the last few years. The reality on the ground is much different, most people just don’t bother reporting crime, because it’s not worth the effort and the police probably won’t come anyway.

In what year did the stats become garbage then? If they were always garbage then crime has gone down. Do the stats become worse each year while crime goes up?

When the DAs in Democrat-run cities stopped charging criminals. I think there's a case in Seattle where one guy assaulted 23 people, one at a time, and they just let him go over and over again. No charges.
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