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Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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You understand that most of these are examples of mental illness, right? It would be great if schizophrenic people would behave themselves, but kind of the whole deal is that they can't.

Many , not most. Meth is a huge problem here.

I think most people would consider drug addiction a mental illness. If not it often is being used as a coping mechanism for mental illness or something else. Being able to empathize with people who are struggling is exactly what OP was talking about.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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The video itself was quite off-putting when I first saw it. He didn't even just kindly offer her flowers. He _tricked_ her into taking them by making it sound like he just wanted her to hold them for him. She was actually being kind to him by doing him a favor, and then he basically ran away and stuck her with them. That's not kind at all, it's pushy and exploitative. As someone who doesn't usually like to accept gif…

What a weird psychological fragility. If a stranger leaves me holding their trash I shrug and shove it in a garbage bin.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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> Random acts of kindness DO happen, but are usually not captured on video. Indeed. In fact, when the act is intentionally captured on video by its performer, not only is it already very debatable that it is an act of "kindness"... but it is also obviously NOT "random"! (For the colloquial meaning of "random" of course)

> Indeed. In fact, when the act is intentionally captured on video by its performer, not only is it already very debatable that it is an act of "kindness" Only if you're going into the whole "every act is selfish" kind of thing. > but it is also obviously NOT "random"! (For the colloquial meaning of "random" of course) Why not? It only takes a few seconds to start filming. If you mean having a camera person, that sta…

> Only if you're going into the whole "every act is selfish" kind of thing.

There are selfless acts of kindness, but this isn't one of them. There's no conflict there. He did it to make a video he could monetize on TikTok. It's his job. It's a really simple distinction.

> If you mean having a camera person, that starts to get into the weeds, but it depends on how much planning there was and how it was done.

If he went to that mall and bought flowers and picked a sympathetic-looking subject, with the intention of filming a video of himself doing it to upload to TikTok, it's not random. It's premeditated. I don't mean that in the legal sense, though it probably applies. I mean he thought about it in advance, so it's not "random".

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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You understand that most of these are examples of mental illness, right? It would be great if schizophrenic people would behave themselves, but kind of the whole deal is that they can't.

Many , not most. Meth is a huge problem here.

I don't see how that refutes my argument.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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I've never been to a protestant church where the message was that we were "worthy" of the cross. Everything has always been predicated on grace which is necessarily unmerited.

Yeah don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting that any somewhat mainstream protestant church emphasizes that its followers are worthy. I'm just wondering about literally that line being said before they eat the bread and drink the wine.

The theology of the eucharist/communion is definitely different in protestant churches.

I've never been to a protestant church where they believe you receive a sort of saving grace from consuming the host - though there is agreement it is pleasing to God to do it.

In the Catholic church they definitely believe you receive some sort of grace. What "kind" of grace is something I still haven't wrapped my head around.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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Natural selection at work.

If you're implying social Darwinism being an expected natural consequence, you may want to research the history and abuses of the idea before accepting it and throwing it around so glibly.

Couldn't even tell you what social Darwinism is. My comment was not political in nature, I was merely referring to the concept of natural selection in a literal sense.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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The video itself was quite off-putting when I first saw it. He didn't even just kindly offer her flowers. He _tricked_ her into taking them by making it sound like he just wanted her to hold them for him. She was actually being kind to him by doing him a favor, and then he basically ran away and stuck her with them. That's not kind at all, it's pushy and exploitative. As someone who doesn't usually like to accept gif…

Warning: This video was designed to generate profit.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#489

Seriously? Apparently no one knows or has seen Alan Funt's Candid Camera. This was no worse than hundreds of situations that Funt created, filmed and put in TV over decades.

I can’t believe people are talking about a thing, when clearly there also exists another thing!

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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So much of the content I see now on TikTok and other apps is totally staged, and quite often poorly staged at that. It would be interesting to know who funds the production of many of the videos, because there's obviously an advertising scheme or some sort of moneymaking ploy behind a lot of it. I think things really took off with the people who were making "gold-digger" videos, where a guy tries to talk to a girl an…

>but there's never disclaimer that the video is staged or a skit. This is where working in the entertainment industry has jaded me a bit. By default, I assume that if it captured on camera, it has been planned/staged/etc for the explicit purpose of being shown to people. With social media, I think it has been turned up to an 11 as everyone is trying to become social media famous. It takes a bit of convincing for me t…

A huge swath of the population thinks life is a TV show. Not consciously, but in the back of their mind because they have spent so much time living through entertainment.

"To the Capital building...this should be fun!!" Hahaha....

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