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Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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Social Media has largely exposed the levels of narcissism embedded in a large number of human's psychological makeup , Selfies, clout chasing and virtue signalling are ever increasing forms of narcissism that really has destroyed the internet IMO

It's similar with C. Who knew the levels of memory unsafety embedded in a large number of human's psychological makeup! Luckily, now that Rust exists, our collective psychological makeup is proven to be much safer. But of course on a deeper physical level, hertzbleed shows that all of us are one Javascript away from becoming Manchurian candidates.

Was this generated using GPT3?

Lately, I find myself wondering whether I'd be able to tell the difference.

In this particular case, I'm not at all sure how this string of words came to be.

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Please be more empathetic to people who beg for money.

Do you live somewhere that is being overrun by homeless? Like the west coast for example? Because it is really, really hard to be empathetic with the homeless folks here, based on how they behave.

It is almost as if forcing people who need professional psychiatric help out of the psychiatric clinics and putting them to their 'freedom' somehow has diametral effects on societal health.

Maybe you shouldn't put these people in the same category. Not everyone living in the street is the same. Some are just poor. Some need medical and/or psychiatrical help. Some may be on the street by choice (see: Hobos (meant in the 'going from town to town, often by freight train or hitchhiking' sense)).

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Everything in the Bible, including what Christians are supposed to be like, should be viewed through the lens of Jesus on the cross. The idea is that you are supposed to imitate Christ in your life for salvation which is reaching Heaven i.e glorifying God, the Father forever via achieving the Beatific vision. So the "reward" in this case is you becoming one with Christ and thus closer to God. It's not a "currency" to…

Is that last part really a Christian (in a wide sense) thing or just a Catholic thing? I definitely hear it at Catholic Mass but I have not experienced it at most protestant Eucharist ceremonies.

There may be some overlap in some denominations I'm not aware of, but as far as the Eucharist is concerned, it's largely only a Catholic thing. In Catholicism, the first Eucharist has a particular significance as Christ/the Spirit dwelling within you. In Protestantism, it's only an ordinance, so is only a representation/ritual/tradition. There is often a component of confessing sins privately before partaking though, but the "Lord's Supper" (as it's called by most protestant denominations) is not a means of grace or sacrament in most protestant denominations. By "means of grace", I mean that taking the Lord's Supper does not lead to salvation or impart God's grace or anything else. It's purely symbolic in probably 95% of Protestantism. In the other 5% of orthodox Protestantism, it's not just symbolic, but is not a means of salvation/grace. In Catholicism (to my understanding of not being Catholic but studying it in a protestant seminary), it is considered a means of grace and imparts some form or measure of grace for salvation.

In all of Christianity though, there is an understanding that our sin is a failure to live up to God's holiness and standards, and that in Protestantism one of the pillars (5 solas) is that it is only through his grace, mercy, and love for us that Jesus came to die, and that our salvation is due to his grace alone and not something individually inherent in ourselves that makes us worthy.

I'm hedging all of that with the fact that there's a lot of religions/denominations/cults that call themselves "Christian", and many believe very different things.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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I am glad that filming someone here (Switzerland) without consent is not legal even in public. You can film in public but if a person is the center attention in your footage it becomes illegal and you need their consent especially if you publish it. Only exceptions are large public events where privacy can not be expected. Same goes for identifiable information like license plates. For example if you film a parking l…

How do you determine if someone is "the center of attention"? Could someone record ultra high res video using an ultra wide lens, then privately crop the video at will?

If you post the cropped video online then the "center of attention" is clear.

Most videos posted online like this of the woman the center of attention is quite clear. If you are posting a video of a group of people whom happen to just be there it's also clear that it wasn't the intent of the video to record those people. Yes, it's subjective but the point of the law is to not completely outlaw video taping but to protect peoples privacy.

You also always have the option to blur peoples faces/beep their voice and then there is no issue when posting the video online. You can post a video of a person "freaking out" as long as they are not identifiable.

I don't see a difference between when someone records you with an ultra wide lens/high res than if someone is using a hidden camera at a pool. Both are illegal and most people except creeps aren't doing it.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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I am forced to ask: who cares?

The whole thing is a dumb stunt. But there is no harm and no reward for bad behaviour.

If you're worried about privacy, give Google or the NSA some attention. If you don't want to be bothered by people, avoid people.

This whole story seems like it's purpose made for people to argue over. And "news" like that is just a huge waste of time and actively distracts from our societies real issues.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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How do you determine if someone is "the center of attention"? Could someone record ultra high res video using an ultra wide lens, then privately crop the video at will?

I think society will need to start coming to terms with this. The concept of "it is public, so it is fair game" can no longer be applied.

I feel like you kinda have it backwards though, at least in regard to the parent comment.

The objective standard of "you're in public so it's fair game" doesn't care if you have ultra-high resolution footage, if you're hiding in a bush, if you're doing X or Y so it's very easy to apply. Meanwhile "someone can't be the focus without consent" is a somewhat subjective standard that could easily become hard to apply.

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Criminal and civil lawsuits are separable.

> Criminal and civil lawsuits are separable. Of course, you can sue for literally anything, but what damages would they claim?

I suppose if you could get anyone like this woman involved as a witness to testify that they will be less likely to be a patron of the business due to behavior like this you could claim damages that way.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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If filming is done in public for the intent to be published, should there be a release form signed by any people that were filmed?

Anecdotally, many years ago I was at an outdoor park and they were filming a fitness reality show. The fitness coach was making the participant do random workouts throughout the park. In one of those random workouts, I was in the background of the filming. Immediately as I was out of frame, a production assistant provided a release form to authorize the use of my likeness in a broadcast.

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