Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's also the semi-mythical "Super Bowl Flush" https://news.arizona.edu/story/super-bowls-super-flush-just-...
Perhaps we should have a national “if it is yellow, let it mellow, if it is brown, flush it down” ad campaign.
Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
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Re: Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
#42This is why one of the goals of the “smart grid” is demand response: the loads and grid need to be able to react to each other.
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#43Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
Re: Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
#44Re: Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
#45Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
> but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". Isn't this exactly what they do? That what the Nest does when there's going to be a spike; it cools the house.
I don't have any experience with Nest, but the Ecobee seemed to just increase the cool set temp when there was demand. I didn't experience any proactive cooling.
Interestingly, in the Ecobee Community Energy Savings FAQ I linked above it says:
> [...] your thermostat may precool your home prior to the event to make sure you’re comfortable.
But I never experienced this. I wonder if its energy provider dependent.
Re: Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
#46Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps we should have a national “if it is yellow, let it mellow, if it is brown, flush it down” ad campaign.
Australia has split flush buttons, with a half-size flush possible. Haven't seen many here in the States; might be good to require in new construction.
Re: Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
#48Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
Nest's does this; it cools below your set temperature in advance of the "Rush Hour" for a few hours. https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9244031
Re: Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
#49Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
> but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". Isn't this exactly what they do? That what the Nest does when there's going to be a spike; it cools the house.
* Sets the thermostat 2 degrees cooler (74) ~1 hr prior to the rush hour time (3:30-5:30)
* Sets the thermostat to 4 degrees warmer between rush hour timing.
Problem is, with the current heat my house cannot be cooled down to 74 1 hour prior, and even still... it floats up to 80 degrees by ~4:30-5PM anyways and the AC kicks back on. Then it takes until ~10PM or so to get BACK to the 76 set temperature. This is a relatively modern house (built in 2010s), so it has modern insulation, sealing, etc. It's just ACs aren't really sized for being able to wildly swing temperatures and maintain temp. When it's 100+ degrees outside, they're sized so they run basically constantly when the sun is out, so slipping temperature means you're playing catch up for the rest of the night.
Re: Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids
#50Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
Like heating/cooling your house more in advance of demand? It would be neat if they could enable/disable demand on a rolling basis where AC runs for one subpopulation for part of an hour then for another subpopulation the next part.