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Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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I feel for this women. It is not right to do something like that without her consent. Then again I wonder: Is this a new phenomenon? Weren’t these kind of jokes normal for certain TV shows? And now they have made their way into social media?

Those TV shows asked for written consent afterwards and didn't (usually, sure there are exceptions over all those years) air footage without it. Wouodn't kill influencers and the like to do same would it?

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#103

She should have chucked them in a bin, and given the finger while the camera lingered to capture the "love and kindness". Now there's a viral video.

Maybe that's a new trend! Like punching scary clowns and scare pranksters...

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#104
post #73

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I don't want to tar an entire generation with the same brush, but I have noticed that younger people seem to be really taken in with these very shallow like-farming operations on YouTube and TikTok. Mr Beast is incredibly successful at this, in that his stunts produce massive numbers for very little outlay. A friend's kid in his teens was telling me about how he's the most generous person he's ever seen and it make m…

What is your opinion on Mr Beast? I just watched a video of his for the first time and he gave away over $500,000.

Mr Beast is a game show host. He’s not giving away his own money yet everything is framed as the giant act of generosity on his part. He’s giving away money much like Bob Barker gave away kitchen sets.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#106

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I think the wikipedia article from OP makes a strong point that you may have missed. Notice the wording "ENDS" That would modify your statement as follows : Something can be kind and filmed (provided.. ENDS). OR restating your sentence: "Something can be kind and filmed provided filming was not the goal of the kindness, and in fact filming was entirely unintended and unexpected"

I agree much more with your wording of the idea, though I still believe 100% it's possible to do something kind with the intention of filming it. If someone wants to donate a million dollars to me they're welcome to film it on a million cameras if they want

What about this story that the thread is discussing? The woman in question did not appreciate being filmed, is this still an example of kindness? Not trying to argue here just understanding your thought process, because I agree with the poster you replied to.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#107
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The irony is it that shows the exact opposite of love and compassion. Self-aggrandizement and no regard for others, motivated only by the needs of self, and didn't even spend an extra second with her beyond what was required to execute this vapid stunt.

I don't want to tar an entire generation with the same brush, but I have noticed that younger people seem to be really taken in with these very shallow like-farming operations on YouTube and TikTok. Mr Beast is incredibly successful at this, in that his stunts produce massive numbers for very little outlay. A friend's kid in his teens was telling me about how he's the most generous person he's ever seen and it make m…

> "I really don't want to be that guy and wade into it with a "well, actually"."

Be that guy; what's your criticism about Mr Beast's generosity? He does a lot of content which could be fake; like giving his friends $20,000, but ones which look more serious and genuine and costly include:

- Opened a "free bank" where he loaned money into six figures to local people, then surprise! it's not a loan, they can keep it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORUX1lHbOa8

- Bought everything in a supermarket and donated it to a food bank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha4tRQwKIUg

- Donated $100k to plant trees, and organised a fundraiser which raised $21M to plant 20M trees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPJKxAhLw5I

- Ran a contest of TV show style challenges (endurance, falling into goop) with some of his viewers as contestents, with a million dollar prize at the end that one of them won: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ4m4zD7BBA

- Gave away three houses or free rent for a year in them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJH28ICkCdU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv1QaRzJg8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cCpZl8euLI

- Bought every car in a car dealership and gave them away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LLnjRLrvLU

- Gives his credit card to people, encouraging them to spend tens thousands of dollars on things they get to keep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYVjOfoU3uI

What's vapid or not generous enough about these for your liking?

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#109

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It's the TikTok-effect in action I guess. I had a fun experience with the Instagram-effect recently. I tried to visit an arboretum earlier this year (don't judge me, it's interesting!) and I couldn't get near the viewing platform because someone had a crew lighting their shots for Instagram. They asked me to wait for a couple of minutes to get finished, which I did. Ten minutes later a crowd had built up on the ramp…

Years ago I was walking with my wife and parents along a path/boardwalk across a marsh to the beach on Cape Cod, MA. At the top of the platform where the wooden stairs went up the dune and onto the beach there were three people standing, one holding a sun shade. We just walked past them, but my Mom chatted them up briefly. Apparently they were doing a photo shoot for a J. Crew catalog, but I never would have guessed…

From the perspective of someone who has worked in the film industry: how a crew interacts with and treats bystanders is generally very telling about where they are on the "amateur-professional" scale.

In my experience, professional productions are usually very intentional about not getting in the way of people just trying to go about their day. We were filming at a busy coffee shop in January, and we held for filming whenever a customer wanted to buy a coffee. The producers were pretty serious about not disrupting the business we were filming at.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#110
post #96

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His spokespeople will be happy to answer that question for him.

why the hell does a TikToker need a spokesperson at all? ego boost?

Same reason I have someone change my oil -- I don't want to spend the time myself, I can afford it, and they'll probably do a better job.
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