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Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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It’s not that hard to just say that the idea of creating huge monetary incentives to harass, interrupt, or just distract people in public was a bad idea.

To me it just seems like a lighthearted prank which resulted in giving flowers to someone who appears in need of cheering up. It's something that could easily have been on any comedy TV show of the last 30 years. And I think there's always been a monetary incentive; Candid Camera first aired in 1948.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#23

> the video was “designed to spread love and compassion” Hmmm.... seems more likely designed to get engagement. Presumably he doesn't love the woman, as he doesn't know anything at all about her, so that one is a lie for a start. And I guess he doesn't feel any compassion for her either, as he hasn't taken it down without forcing her to contact him, which she probably doesn't want to do.

>> And I guess he doesn't feel any compassion for her either, as he hasn't taken it down without forcing her to contact him, which she probably doesn't want to do.

I think it's not lack of compassion but lack of understanding. He probably thinks the lady is trying to milk the episode for likes. I'm guessing he has no capacity to comprehend that her life may not revolve around social media likes.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#24
post #15

> He wholeheartedly apologises to Maree if she was offended by what he did and urges her to contact him privately so he can personally apologise. > If she requests him to take down the video he will do that. The video should've been taken down already.

Honest thing to do would be to disclose the profits from the video and share it with her.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on the country. Filming someone in public where they are the subject of the video (or photo) without their consent is illegal in France. If this had been recorded in France instead of Australia, the rights of the subject (the woman) to her image would trump any right to film in a public place of a Tiktok creator.

Derek Chauvin would appreciate that.

I don't think the solution to police brutality is to sacrifice the the privacy of an entire nation.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony is it that shows the exact opposite of love and compassion. Self-aggrandizement and no regard for others, motivated only by the needs of self, and didn't even spend an extra second with her beyond what was required to execute this vapid stunt.

I don't want to tar an entire generation with the same brush, but I have noticed that younger people seem to be really taken in with these very shallow like-farming operations on YouTube and TikTok. Mr Beast is incredibly successful at this, in that his stunts produce massive numbers for very little outlay. A friend's kid in his teens was telling me about how he's the most generous person he's ever seen and it make m…

I don't think it's a generational thing, but a social media thing, and I think it looks like it's representative of "everybody" when in truth it's representative of the people who are more active on social media, which should be a small proportion of the general population.

I hope anyway.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#27
I thought media releases were required for image rights before video could be commercialized?

I always find these videos cheesy and fake and assumed they had received legal permission (if not hired actors to pose). If these jerks are filming and posing unwilling participants in their product, that seems pretty easy to remedy.

I remember a few years ago pornhub had a decision to get positive consent from people in videos to prevent revenge porn and other types of content. I guess TikTok needs something similar for videos with1M+ views.

It seems TikTokpays out between 2 and 4 cents per thousand views [0]. So if this video has 59M views it seems the creator made between $1,180 and $2,360.

So should be a simple small claims lawsuit. Maybe add in treble damages.

What would be really fun is to use the messed up class action lawsuit apparatus to create a class of victims that are in these videos that are uncompensated and just sue TikTok directly.

I like how the creator offered to take the video down, if asked. No apology and no offer to give back the money he made from the video.

[0] https://www.thetealmango.com/technology/how-much-does-tiktok...

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#28
> “So far Harrison has only encountered gratitude for what he has done, however it is clear in this case someone is upset. He wholeheartedly apologises to Maree if she was offended by what he did and urges her to contact him privately so he can personally apologise. If she requests him to take down the video he will do that.”

59m views. What about the money?

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#29
post #5

I don’t know if it’s news but she’s kinda right in calling it out for how fake and sinister these trends are and how these people profit from them

It's the TikTok-effect in action I guess.

I had a fun experience with the Instagram-effect recently. I tried to visit an arboretum earlier this year (don't judge me, it's interesting!) and I couldn't get near the viewing platform because someone had a crew lighting their shots for Instagram. They asked me to wait for a couple of minutes to get finished, which I did. Ten minutes later a crowd had built up on the ramp and I just pushed past and said "all right good work today everyone we got what we need that's a wrap!". It's nuts.

It's also weirdly disturbing to me that the presence of someone with an expensive looking camera was enough for a lot of them to just walk on past instead of enjoying the day out they paid for.

Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

#30
I wouldn't hold any flowers or anything really for any stranger in public. I've been to touristy places before and learned this lesson just by observation. High likelyhood some pressure style selling tactics would follow.

Really, putting things on the groud or some other higher surface to free your hands should be a basic human skill by now.

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