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Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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He had state secrets on his machine.. why would they need to do this or what would they gain from doing this?

Makes him look really scummy?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32090407

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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The go to ‘sprinkle some crack on em’ tool in the alphabet toolbox.

He had state secrets on his machine.. why would they need to do this or what would they gain from doing this?

Impeaching the witness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_impeachment

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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The go to ‘sprinkle some crack on em’ tool in the alphabet toolbox.

If there was such a tool, why wasn't it used for others like Chelsea Manning?

Not every leak and leaker is the same. If a tool/procedure like that existed, it would probably be used on people who could generate positive public perception of their actions.

Apparently the "vault 7" leak was centered around how devices were hacked to spy on private citizens and consumers. The public has a soft spot for people who leak things that expose direct invasions of privacy. Chelsea Manning on the other hand leaked documents that I don't believe would influence public opinion of them very easily (diplomatic cables and different military things).

If you were going to break the law (planting evidence) to smear the character of someone, smear the person who has a higher chance of the public siding with.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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If you're going to illegally leak sensitive information, give it to journalists, not WikiLeaks. Good journalists know how to balance public safety and public interest, and have the resources to redact dangerous information. WikiLeaks is much more anarchic and leans heavily towards total disclosure.

Total disclosure when it happens to favor Russian interests. Not otherwise.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia...

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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If there was such a tool, why wasn't it used for others like Chelsea Manning?

Not every leak and leaker is the same. If a tool/procedure like that existed, it would probably be used on people who could generate positive public perception of their actions. Apparently the "vault 7" leak was centered around how devices were hacked to spy on private citizens and consumers. The public has a soft spot for people who leak things that expose direct invasions of privacy. Chelsea Manning on the other ha…

then why wouldn't they have used it against Edward Snowden? he revealed a whole mass surveillance operation, along with misconduct by NSA agents, and there was a lot of popular support for him.

I still agree they could have smeared him, but I don't think it's improbable that the porn was actually his. Pedophiles are skilled at opsec, keeping secrets and doing unsavory things, so their background suits working in IC if they can conceal their behavior. And if discovered by a foreign intelligence agency, they'd be easy to extort into spying.

Vault 7 released a fair bit of code, didn't it? It would benefit state adversaries to leak that publicly, by burning exploits the CIA's using.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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If you're going to illegally leak sensitive information, give it to journalists, not WikiLeaks. Good journalists know how to balance public safety and public interest, and have the resources to redact dangerous information. WikiLeaks is much more anarchic and leans heavily towards total disclosure.

Real journalists defined by the media cartel or government entities?

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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He had state secrets on his machine.. why would they need to do this or what would they gain from doing this?

Impeaching the witness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_impeachment

IANAL, but I don't think they can introduce child pornography charge in the espionage trial--they severed the two trials, and the ex-CIA coder hasn't yet been convicted of child pornography (it's the later trial), so it doesn't fall under the "Prior Conviction" umbrella.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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The go to ‘sprinkle some crack on em’ tool in the alphabet toolbox.

If there was such a tool, why wasn't it used for others like Chelsea Manning?

Her court martialing could already happen without anything else needed, and was enough to get her up to 90 years in prison, of which she got a 35 year sentence.
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