I mean unsubscribe links are commonly two-stage (you have to click a button on the target website), but now always. Never saw a similar two-stage verification link though.
Are Magic Links Outdated?
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#142MagicLinks are a mobile nightmare. Mobile email clients use their own browser and cookie jar which consume the session cookie you're trying to put into the user's main browser. This results in users 'never staying signed in' and a lot of frustration. Sending a one-time code via email fixes this, and is in practice about as easy to use as a link on desktop. In our app (Loomio) we default to magic/codes, but let users…
> MagicLinks are a mobile nightmare. Mobile email clients use their own browser and cookie jar which consume the session cookie you're trying to put into the user's main browser. It might be howling into the void but the conclusion I reach from this is that "Mobile email clients are a nightmare". Generally speaking, embedded browsers in mobile apps are a terrible idea and break user expectations in multiple ways.
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#143The magic link is basically using "forgot my password" e-mail recovery flow to just friggin' log in. If you've served the user a link which takes them to a session where they can change their password, that session must be authenticated, by definition; you would not allow an unauthenticated visitor to change an account password! And so, if that password change session is authenticated, then just treat that as fully f…
Many of my accounts I use the password reset feature then enter a long and secure password and never store the password. Next time I log in I reset my password again.
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#144They don’t seem that outdated to me, given the evidence presented. email provider security is a real problem but is usually considered the root of trust for persons…
One of the first things I learned when I got onto the internet was that "consider (RFC822) emails to be postcards analogs, readable by anyone who stumbles over them, they are not like mail which hides its content in an envelope." That was in 1994. Shirts reading "I read your email" were popular with the IT guys up to until about ten years ago (and they are still being offered). Email is an inherently insecure, non-tr…
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If it's magic link or multi-factor authentication, I know which one I prefer. Try explaining to an MFA-loving service that your phone is out of action while it's being repaired.
1password and Lastpass both manage MFA codes and work cross-device. If your phone is your only way to get into MFA protected accounts, you're doing it wrong. What happens if you can't repair your phone?
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Mobile email clients use their own browser and cookie jar which consume the session cookie you're trying to put into the user's main browser. This results in users 'never staying signed in' and a lot of frustration. The earliest Magic Links I remember using didn't have this problem, and this was before smartphones. The Link, back then at least, was only to authenticate that you can receive emails at a certain mailb…
As a user the problem I run into with some frequency is passwordless login where the waiting session loses its “waiting” status because I switched the active application in iOS from my browser to my email and back again. When I get back, the page for whatever reason (refresh after being backgrounded?) requires a new auth attempt. A wrinkle in this complaint is that in most scenarios I don’t especially want a browser…