I'm terrified of this. I've no idea why, but if I hear a song too many times in a couple day period I have a night of fever dreaming where I wake up over and over again to the song in my head. It's like my brain has over conditioned the pathway for that song and as soon as it starts trying to dream it falls into it and the dream breaks and I wake up. It happens to me a couple times a year and when I hear any of the s…
I hope you never have to work retail, they often have the same approved songs on repeat all day. I worked at a gym, and to this day, there are songs I don't even like that pop up in my head. 3 years of hearing them every day just about drove me spare.
Working in retail or restaurants during Christmas season is absolute torture. There's not a single Christmas song I enjoy anymore.
Prog is still alive and well. I love King Gizzard and the Wizard Lizard. My fav lesser known prog is Caravan.
I'll give them a listen. I've tried to listen to a few things like Marillion and Dream Theater before, but it didn't seem to me that they get anywhere close to something like Yes' Close to the Edge. I'd be happy to find some other band that maybe does, especially if they are even newer.
> Marillion
My entire late 80's high school days were pretty much just listening to Marillion over and over again until my Walkman would wear out the cassette and I'd have to get another copy. Just something about Fish's brooding bitter anger appealed to my angsty teenage mind. Once Fish left though, they quickly moved away from what I was interest in listening to.
These days the one prog album I seem to keep going back to is "Tales From the Lush Attic" by IQ, although "Relayer" by Yes has been getting some good play lately.
On the opposite end of the spectrum is Elliott Carter. He intentionally tried to avoid repetition in his works. I was into his string quartets for a while about forty-five years ago but haven’t heard them since. Maybe it’s time to listen to them again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wse3ZoUXo5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waQgZEGsUpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6njANe60Evw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi0…
> Maybe it’s time to listen to them again. Elliott Carter would strongly disagree. :) A lot of Baroque music is through-composed. For instance, the Prelude and Fugue forms that J. S. Bach composed some of his music in don't contain outright repetition, or not very much. Themes recur, of course, but in different settings: differently harmonized, in different keys and so on. The two-part form features repetition that m…
Baroque music is often highly repetitive (even fugues are a form of material repetition!) - I would think there was a distinct trend from the 1600s to the mid 1900s where classical music became more and more through composed, until minimalism became suddenly popular.
I'll give them a listen. I've tried to listen to a few things like Marillion and Dream Theater before, but it didn't seem to me that they get anywhere close to something like Yes' Close to the Edge. I'd be happy to find some other band that maybe does, especially if they are even newer.
> Marillion My entire late 80's high school days were pretty much just listening to Marillion over and over again until my Walkman would wear out the cassette and I'd have to get another copy. Just something about Fish's brooding bitter anger appealed to my angsty teenage mind. Once Fish left though, they quickly moved away from what I was interest in listening to. These days the one prog album I seem to keep going b…
I am in the beginning of a personal re-awakening with Marillion. I largely stopped following the band after _Seasons_End_ (despite liking that album). Much like Pink Floyd, I felt that the Whole was greater than the Sum of the parts: without his band to keep him grounded, Fish went into the weeds. Without their jester, the band seemed lessened lyrically.
But: I recently started exploring what they've done in the decades hence, and I am gaining a new appreciation of Hogarth's vocal expression. I find the studio/album version of the song "When I Meet God" to be particularly haunting.
P.S. On Youtube there is a 2-person band named Fleesh that has done spectacular covers of songs like /SFaJT and /Season's End/. Highly recommended.
Some composers are more repetitive than others. There’s an old joke: Knock knock Who’s there? Philip Glass Knock knock Who’s there? Philip Glass Knock knock Who’s there? Philip Glass
On the opposite end of the spectrum is Elliott Carter. He intentionally tried to avoid repetition in his works. I was into his string quartets for a while about forty-five years ago but haven’t heard them since. Maybe it’s time to listen to them again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wse3ZoUXo5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waQgZEGsUpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6njANe60Evw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi0…
My stepfather is a composer who follows in the path of Ives, one of Carter’s influences. Have been to quite a few concerts by many composers and musicians emulating Ives and Carter and others. As an amateur jazz & classical musician myself, I can understand some of the ideas my stepfather talks about, in the sense of academic concepts. The music in general doesn’t grab me or move me other than in fleeting moments perhaps, the lack of (to me) discernible patterns leaves me feeling like I have nothing to grab onto. I’d love to hear how you (or anyone) enjoy this music, what about it inspires you, what you like about it, does it evoke emotions, how is it similar or different from more mainstream music, etc. For a long time the question in my head has been, am I not enjoying this music because I don’t understand it, or am I just a person who enjoys only certain kinds of music.
> Maybe it’s time to listen to them again. Elliott Carter would strongly disagree. :) A lot of Baroque music is through-composed. For instance, the Prelude and Fugue forms that J. S. Bach composed some of his music in don't contain outright repetition, or not very much. Themes recur, of course, but in different settings: differently harmonized, in different keys and so on. The two-part form features repetition that m…
Baroque music is often highly repetitive (even fugues are a form of material repetition!) - I would think there was a distinct trend from the 1600s to the mid 1900s where classical music became more and more through composed, until minimalism became suddenly popular.
I think, you cannot have unity in a musical work if there is something new at every turn which does not reappear in any shape or form. In the best music from the Baroque era, there is new material throughout a piece. Many passages introduce motifs that do not make a reappearance. Or make a disguised reappearance just once.
I think, you will be hard-pressed to find two identical bars in a Bach fugue, where all the voices are doing exactly the same thing that was heard before. Even if a recurring theme appears, it's in a different way. Blatant copy and pasting is basically anti-fugue. Fugue-fail.
> Marillion My entire late 80's high school days were pretty much just listening to Marillion over and over again until my Walkman would wear out the cassette and I'd have to get another copy. Just something about Fish's brooding bitter anger appealed to my angsty teenage mind. Once Fish left though, they quickly moved away from what I was interest in listening to. These days the one prog album I seem to keep going b…
I am in the beginning of a personal re-awakening with Marillion. I largely stopped following the band after _Seasons_End_ (despite liking that album). Much like Pink Floyd, I felt that the Whole was greater than the Sum of the parts: without his band to keep him grounded, Fish went into the weeds. Without their jester, the band seemed lessened lyrically. But: I recently started exploring what they've done in the deca…
I keep going back to them occasionally to see what they're up to. I agree, Hogarth has some great vocal skills. "Memory of Water" on "This Strange Engine" is stand out, and much of the album "Brave" is really good. But they still have never really clicked for me. Definitely agree on Fish going into the weeds. I really, really wanted to like his solo stuff, and I do go back to "Vigil" occasionally, but most of his stuff is just rambling and doesn't have the backing band to make it work.
ETA: Oh my goodness, that lady in Fleesh has a beautiful voice. Their version of "Sugar Mice" is stunningly great.
I'll give them a listen. I've tried to listen to a few things like Marillion and Dream Theater before, but it didn't seem to me that they get anywhere close to something like Yes' Close to the Edge. I'd be happy to find some other band that maybe does, especially if they are even newer.
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Thanks for this. I'm listening to "Aquarius" now and I like what I hear so far.
Somewhat the opposite, but are there tips/tricks to get a song stuck in head -- sort of in a controllable manner? I enjoy having songs stuck in my head, but usually it's not the song I want!