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It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

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Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

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I do this. A lot. Play the same song over and over and over. Often this is just in appreciation of a particular song (do this a lot with Yeasayer tracks).

But these days, I most often do the repeat while I'm programming or writing; I want to keep in a particular zone-emotional and mental. Here are some tracks I've done this with (a good "music for programmers" list, actually).

Meeting in the Aisle - Radiohead

Sketches - Daniel Lanois

Jolie Cycliste Sous la Pluie - Galerie Stratique

In Threes - Loscil

Gelis - Natureboy Flako

Closed Circuit - Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith

Birds Fly by Flapping Their Wings - Biosphere

Unknown - Kutiman

Rainforest Suite - Robert Rich

Surface Currents - Kutiman

Structures from Silence - Steve Roach

Le Ballet des Mouches - Michel Moulinie **

No Partial - Rhythm & Sound

Mango Drive - Rhythm & Sound

Minus - Robert Hood

Echoes of Nothing I - Kyle Gann,, Aron Kallay from the Beyond 12 compilation

Night Vigil I - Michael Harrison

Sun Inside The Sun Loscil Remix - Souns, Loscil

Black Monk In The Dunes - X.Y.R.

** This (and the rest of the album Chrysalide) is a brilliant brilliant gem, and almost impossible to find, except here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUWvXb6jVpw&list=PLh2Bth4KYI...

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

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I do not agree at all. It's just not normal to listen to a single song for 35 times in a row unless you are musician working on it. It's even weirder when you play it loud, harassing your coworkers.

Your first part just sounds judgemental (unless you mean it in a strictly statistical sense) but I agree fully with your second sentence. Tolerance for repeated listening is such a personal thing that someone who does it in a group setting has to be some kind of sadistic sociopath.

Everybody seems to assume that tolerance for non-repeated listening cannot be a personal thing too.

The issue is respect for shared space, whatever the preferences.

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#133

Semi professional musician here. Repetition goes way beyond what the author mentions: - Most music is highly repetitive, often recycling 2 or 3 short segments (chorus, verse) with minor variations to fill out a whole song. Coltrane is known for his avant-garde composition, and even he repeats (often on a much smaller scale than a pop tune). - The work of being a musician is repetitive. Learning (memorizing) songs tak…

I’ll add to this—when writing music, a lot of people (myself included) make the mistake of not using enough repetition!

I think this is right. A lot of my favorite music finds ways to rotate what's repeating. It finds a balance of keeping the groove while still playing with the listener's expectations. But, to your point, if there isn't enough repetition, there's not enough to grab hold of. Obviously, it depends on what you're trying to accomplish, but for most applications, you want to give the listener engaged with your music.

Beyond, or beneath, song structure, I've noticed that experienced songwriters repeat notes in their melodies more often than people starting out.

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#134

> Usually, they’re what I’d call “creative types,” as with architect Zaha Hadid, who before her death in March told the BBC’s Desert Island Discs program about her propensity to play films and songs on a loop while she painted and did other work. Maybe everyone listens to music on repeat (which is why every music app has that feature), including creative types, but creative types are more likely to be interviewed abo…

yeah, probably.

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#135
Before CDs, I laboriously made a tape with Queen's "We Will Rock You" repeated over and over. I wanted it for car stereo demonstrations, but when others found I had it I sold dozens of copies, mostly to people who just liked the song.

Nobody was interest in my Mozart supercuts, alas.

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#136

Can't abide hearing the same stuff repeatedly. We have more material now than we could ever get through in several lifetimes. No more than once a day per tune, please.

No need to make it a goal to try to get through it. Most stuff sounds sufficiently the same anyway that it doesn't really matter. If you enjoy it, press repeat!

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#137

I'm terrified of this. I've no idea why, but if I hear a song too many times in a couple day period I have a night of fever dreaming where I wake up over and over again to the song in my head. It's like my brain has over conditioned the pathway for that song and as soon as it starts trying to dream it falls into it and the dream breaks and I wake up. It happens to me a couple times a year and when I hear any of the s…

As an adult I never experienced this, but I have vivid memories of staring up at the ceiling at 3 AM hearing "Paradise by the dashboard lights" play over and over and over again as a teen.

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#138
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prog is still alive and well. I love King Gizzard and the Wizard Lizard. My fav lesser known prog is Caravan.

I'll give them a listen. I've tried to listen to a few things like Marillion and Dream Theater before, but it didn't seem to me that they get anywhere close to something like Yes' Close to the Edge. I'd be happy to find some other band that maybe does, especially if they are even newer.

Check out Haken

https://hakenmusic.com/

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#139

Semi professional musician here. Repetition goes way beyond what the author mentions: - Most music is highly repetitive, often recycling 2 or 3 short segments (chorus, verse) with minor variations to fill out a whole song. Coltrane is known for his avant-garde composition, and even he repeats (often on a much smaller scale than a pop tune). - The work of being a musician is repetitive. Learning (memorizing) songs tak…

Thanks for sharing your experience with us!

I'm not a professional musician, but I've played and performed in different settings for about 15 years.

Until reading your comment, I didn't realize that many people don't get songs stuck in their head. I often get very long and complex songs stuck in my head for hours to days. Sometimes it's just portions, but sometimes it can be the full song.

I don't quite know how to describe my recollection of music, but it seems to be somewhat akin to eiditic memory, but for sounds. After looking into things, the term eichoic memory seems to come up, but I'm not sure it quite encapsulates what I'm trying to express.

Out of curiousity, do you have aphantasia? I do, and often wonder if the strength of my music recollection comes from a lack of visual recollection in my mind.

Sometimes it takes a few listens to fully memorize a song, but I can revisit music many years later and still have perfect recollection of the piece despite the complexity of the music I tend towards.

For example, my favorite band is Between the Buried and Me (a progressive metal band) and their compositions tend to use a ton of complex and mixed meter, as well as non-repetitive rhythmic patterns. Despite all that, I have perfect recollection of their music—even for songs over 17 minutes long.

Sorry for the long response—your comment just triggered some things I've been thinking about for a while and I wanted to process them and share.

Re: It's normal to play the same song over and over again (2016)

#140
I'm right in the middle of pretty much only being able to listen to Zac Zinger's Sanma Samba. I've listened to it for hours the past few days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=434xCyCSXBg

Another record I had this with recently was Change - Paradise (I've just put this on, and no I'm not at all sick of it!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9l4aSg3u0s

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