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Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

g_log wrote: post #24
jamal-kumar wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi OP of the comment here. I linked a bunch of studies as well as providing my own anecdotal evidence that this stuff worked well enough that I had IBS symptoms reversed by taking this probiotic. My friends who I have introduced this to really like it, too. I'm actually super interested in learning how to make yogurt with it now to help people I know who may be suffering out some. I hear that's a really easy way to m…

+1 on making the yogurt. I have been making L. reuteri yogurt (or fermented milk, technically) for a few months. I started with some BioGaia Gastrus tablets in batch 1 and now just use a tablespoon or two of batch n - 1. I recommend getting a sous vide device for precise temperature control. Initially, I used a the "Yogurt" function on an Instant Pot pressure cooker and about half of the batches failed, separating in…

The article linked by parent says to use new BioGaia Gastrus tablets every 4-5 batches so as not to grow unwanted bacteria. Have you had any trouble reusing the same batch indefinitely?

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by kybernetyk »

boffinAudio wrote: post #33
adrianN wrote: post #29

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This reads like a classic "Big Pharma" conspiracy tale without further substantiation.

It wouldn't be the first time Big Pharma did something harmful to society in order to protect its profit margins. You don't seriously think there is a moral stance that leads one to conclude Big Pharma is benevolent and always looking out for humanity?

Didn't you get the memo? Big Pharma is now the good guys as they gave us those fantastic covid vaccines.

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

bawolff wrote: post #37
folli wrote: post #28

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That's hotly debated. Even the study you cite cannot rule out skin contamination. But unequivocally showing the existence of entero-mammary pathway (translocation of maternal gut bacteria from the gut to the mammary glands) would be very exciting news indeed.

In the context of this conversation, does it matter whether the cause is skin contamination or not?

Yes, because if you are buying breast milk from a woman who used a breast pump, then the skin contamination is very very little compared to actual breast suckling.

A seller:

https://cosprings.craigslist.org/hab/d/colorado-springs-brea...

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

folli wrote: post #21
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #14

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The article says breast milk is one source. Don’t wean your babies to formula too early! You can buy breast milk from lactating mothers on Craigslist. Good luck.

Breast milk is inherently sterile (unless the mother has a severe bacterial infection). It usually gets contaminated with the skin microbiota during feeding. So no, I wouldn't count on L. reuteri being found in a random sample of breast milk.

> Breast milk is inherently sterile

There is nothing sterile in the human body. Not even the brain.

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by fasteo »

jimbru wrote: post #2

For anyone interested in L. Reuteri, you can buy it in the U.S. as Gerber probiotic drops ( https://medical.gerber.com/products/supplements/soothe-colic... ). Marketed for babies but obviously works on adults too. Last I checked Gerber had an exclusive license on U.S. distribution of this bacterium—there’s a Swedish company, BioGaia, that IIRC is the original patent holder.

That's correct for BioGaia. In Europe, it is rather easy to buy.

"BioGaia Gastrus" contains 2 strains of L. Reuteri (DSM 17938 and ATCC PTA 6475)

I crush the tablets to make yogurt following Dr. Davis recipe in SuperGut [1]

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Super-Gut-Four-Week-Reprogram-Microbi...

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by adrianN »

boffinAudio wrote: post #33
adrianN wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like a classic "Big Pharma" conspiracy tale without further substantiation.

It wouldn't be the first time Big Pharma did something harmful to society in order to protect its profit margins. You don't seriously think there is a moral stance that leads one to conclude Big Pharma is benevolent and always looking out for humanity?

Even for actors that I personally believe to be evil, I like to have more evidence than "there is this dude who was paid not to published, trust me".

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by Luc »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #20

Just reposting my original comment which may have inspired this post a few days ago for the links: I had really bad IBS from consuming water on a tropical island in Panama one time and suffered for a few years with even my doctor friend telling me "Damn that sucks, not much you can do except manage". Pretty horrible symptoms until I discovered L. Reuteri. [1] I read that it's been a bacteria that was more commonly fo…

Thank you for your post. I bought the product you used and had my first tablet 10 minutes ago.

https://www.biogaia.com/product-country/biogaia-protectis-ch...

One thing that might interest people on the FODMAP diet is that the first ingredients on the list are isomalt (probably ok) and xylitol (an artificial sweetener). Hopefully the amounts are small enough not to trigger symptoms.

There's also 'Bacilac Femina' which contains reuteri and has less FODMAPs.

Thanks again!

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by benjilb »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #19
chasebank wrote: post #7

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I've been in deep research after reading that comment. Thought it was interesting this story popped up today. Coincidence or astroturf? Been dealing with gastro issues for 4+ years now. I'll report back after I take the stuff for a month.

Hi OP of the comment here. I linked a bunch of studies as well as providing my own anecdotal evidence that this stuff worked well enough that I had IBS symptoms reversed by taking this probiotic. My friends who I have introduced this to really like it, too. I'm actually super interested in learning how to make yogurt with it now to help people I know who may be suffering out some. I hear that's a really easy way to m…

Interesting, I was looking into Lactobacillus gasseri as an aide for uric acid reduction, to help with my gout.

I have kidney disease, and cannot take the usual gout prophylactic medications.

I read that in Japan there is a 'gout yoghurt ', called Meiji (I think) and bought some l. gasseri to try making myself.

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by darkteflon »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #20

Just reposting my original comment which may have inspired this post a few days ago for the links: I had really bad IBS from consuming water on a tropical island in Panama one time and suffered for a few years with even my doctor friend telling me "Damn that sucks, not much you can do except manage". Pretty horrible symptoms until I discovered L. Reuteri. [1] I read that it's been a bacteria that was more commonly fo…

After reading your original comment I stocked up on Biogaia. I’m 3 days into the tablet and will soon start experimenting with culturing for yoghurt. I suspect they had a decent sales bump this week.

Most people here would doubtless prefer not to science-by-anecdote, but when you’ve got this kind of condition you’re willing to try pretty much anything once.

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by __alexs »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #43
bawolff wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the context of this conversation, does it matter whether the cause is skin contamination or not?

Yes, because if you are buying breast milk from a woman who used a breast pump, then the skin contamination is very very little compared to actual breast suckling. A seller: https://cosprings.craigslist.org/hab/d/colorado-springs-brea...

So you're telling me I should actually be drinking all of this e-girl bath water I bought?
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