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Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by deepdriver »

dredmorbius wrote: post #5
Pakdef wrote: post #2

is this the same video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJO3_UADLGk I don't have an instagram account...

Bibliogram is an alternative interface to Instagram: https://bibliogram.art/p/Cf2FPFsPZeD/ (Similar to Nitter -> Twitter, Invidious -> YouTube, and Teddit -> Reddit.) Speaking of which: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TJO3_UADLGk

Thanks for the link, this makes it easier for my de-Facebooked self to keep abreast of family who remain on Instagram.

Do similar alternative interfaces exist for Facebook proper, specifically group and organization pages? I've tried searching but haven't found any. Several local business only have a Facebook presence, no traditional website, and it'd be handy to check their posted hours and menus without creating a second Facebook account for the purpose. Creating such an alt account would also violate Facebook's Terms of Service.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by googlryas »

rgifford wrote: post #22
bko wrote: post #4

Watching videos of this event reminds me of a comedian's bit where he talks about watching Rocky when he was young versus today. When he was young, he would cheer Rocky on while eating those raw eggs. When he watched it when he was older he thought about how hard it would be to get those egg stains off his sweatshirt. I guess that's all to say that I am of the age where I see a bunch of young men shutting down a stre…

I worry about egg stains on sweatshirts too. Some folks join us with age. Others live life right up to the brim, good for em I say. The world needs all kinds. Reminds me of Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake. It's this race in Gloucester, England. It's been going on since the early 1800s. Folks run down a 45 degree hill for 200 yards to catch a 10 pound rolling cheese wheel. It's as dangerous as it sounds, but fun…

Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless.

You're saying "good for em I say" to people who give themselves traumatic brain injuries and kill random innocent people:

https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-do...

https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-...

If they have some private hill they want to go kill themselves on, then go for it. But we shouldn't be shutting down public infrastructure for this. It would be like saying we should shut down I-95 so douchebags can drag race down it. Horrible idea all around. Having the state encourage this behavior is a great way to get more people TBIs.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by smegma2 »

AirMax98 wrote: post #54

The way we build cities around the car in the USA is kind of a blight, so I can't help but be somewhat relieved to see that other people look at these Waymo cars, with all that they stand for, as worthy of ridicule.

In a world where self-driving cars exist, far fewer people will need to own cars.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by megablast »

skavi wrote: post #60
throwaway_4ever wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In an age where people are as lonely and isolated as ever and rightly complain about the ubiquity of car-based transportation, here is a group that has built an actual community around practically carbon-free transportation. Though, yes, even as a skateboarder I don't condone the hill-bombing as it is legitimately too dangerous.

Skateboarding culture is really stupid about safety gear. If they wore the same stuff longboarders wore when going down big slopes, the sport wouldn’t be nearly as dangerous.

Cars kill a million people every single year. And seriously injure 100x many more.

I can't really care about skater safety equipment when we allow cars to exist.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by incompatible »

Gigachad wrote: post #57
AirMax98 wrote: post #54

The way we build cities around the car in the USA is kind of a blight, so I can't help but be somewhat relieved to see that other people look at these Waymo cars, with all that they stand for, as worthy of ridicule.

When car tech gets good enough to avoid almost all incidents with people, something drastic is going to happen. Naturally everyone will just step out on the road causing the cars to stop. So either driving through a city will become a situation you avoid if at all possible, or governments install fences and barriers everywhere and make walking without right of way a serious crime.

You can step out on the road and a car with a driver will nearly always stop. They may sound the horn, or open the window and yell at you, as could a passenger in a driverless car.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by WalterBright »

mgraczyk wrote: post #50
WalterBright wrote: post #29

When I was in high school, the local teens would gather every Friday night on a certain commercial street downtown, and would drag race from light to light. Of course it was illegal, but the cops had a quiet understanding that as long as it was just that section of road, they wouldn't interfere. It was great fun. Not only were kids drag racing their cars, a lot more were showing off their cars, hanging out at the dri…

Idk after a few near death experiences with people racing by me in SF, I'm cool with kids finding fun in other places. I did a lot of dangerous stupid shit with my car as a teenager. Some of my friends were seriously injured doing similar things. Fortunately we never killed anybody, but not worth it.

This wasn't particularly dangerous. It was confined to a mile of a 4 lane road, straight, well lit, the businesses were set back a ways, no traffic. The kids knew if they caused trouble they'd be shut down. Frankly it was mostly just revving engines and showing off.

In those days you could buy a working 440 roadrunner that'd press your eyeballs back in their sockets for $400. I almost bought a 68 Chevy Super Sport with some massive engine in it for $600. Sometimes I wonder if it was a good thing I didn't buy it :-/ That car today would cost a bleedin fortune.

Those people who do free climbing, they're crazy, and have a short life expectancy. Not something I'd ever consider. But I'm not going to tell them they can't do it.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by throwaway_4ever »

googlryas wrote: post #72
rgifford wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worry about egg stains on sweatshirts too. Some folks join us with age. Others live life right up to the brim, good for em I say. The world needs all kinds. Reminds me of Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake. It's this race in Gloucester, England. It's been going on since the early 1800s. Folks run down a 45 degree hill for 200 yards to catch a 10 pound rolling cheese wheel. It's as dangerous as it sounds, but fun…

Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless. You're saying "good for em I say" to people who give themselves traumatic brain injuries and kill random innocent people: https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-do... https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-... If they have some private hill…

Your two examples have nothing to do with “kill random innocent people.” Both of them were actively doing the hill-bomb.

No bystander has ever been killed in this event.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by ramblerman »

thepasswordis wrote: post #59

Where's the "hill bomb"? https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf2FPFsPZeD/ This is a bunch of kids swarming a car and dancing on top of it. None of them even look like they have skateboards with them.

When you give things a "name" it somehow justifies the behavior. Even if there was a hill bomb it wouldn't justify this in my mind.

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Post by tempestn »

megablast wrote: post #74
skavi wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Skateboarding culture is really stupid about safety gear. If they wore the same stuff longboarders wore when going down big slopes, the sport wouldn’t be nearly as dangerous.

Cars kill a million people every single year. And seriously injure 100x many more. I can't really care about skater safety equipment when we allow cars to exist.

You really need to look at incident rates rather than totals when making comparisons across categories like this. Plus, no one is suggesting banning skateboards, just participating in the sport as safely as possible. There is likewise an ongoing effort to make cars as safe as possible, and indeed they have gotten much safer for both passengers and pedestrians over the years.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Post by jahewson »

mullingitover wrote: post #38

Oof, these poor kids. I can't imagine what's going to happen to them financially, but I feel like doing a lot of property damage to a vehicle that's bristling with high resolution cameras, in the age of easy facial recognition, is going to have consequences. Maybe they're just so privileged that their default expectation is that their parents will bail them out of anything, and maybe they're right.

I don’t really see much damage being done in the video? Certainly nothing being smashed up.
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