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Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by termau »

nomel wrote: post #27
Dracophoenix wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HDMI 2.1, DP 2.0, ECC RAM, replaceable SSDs, non-adhesive batteries, and, ideally, a cellular modem. In my case, it's likely I'll be waiting a long time. What's your company's policy on data safety? I would hope there's something in place should your Mac's motherboard fry.

> ideally, a cellular modem Does this make sense, these days? My phone's connection is a click away, in my Mac's WiFi menu. What does an integrated modem solve?

You can take the cellular modem in my X1 out of my cold dead hands and not a moment before. Open laptop, connected - no matter where you are in the world.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by soganess »

__blockcipher__ wrote: post #28
pivo wrote: post #26

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I know I’m in the minority but I really love my work 2019 MBP’s butterfly keyboard. I’m a very light typist, maybe that’s why, I dunno. I’ll miss it when it’s gone. I have a personal M1 MBP, and while I like it more in almost every other way, the keyboard is just ok by comparison.

I loved the feel of the keyboard (contrary to some) but durability and redundancy were god-awful.

I'm in the same camp as the two of you!

Sure, I've had mine replaced 5 times, but I love the actuation/feel of the keys. It was/is light years ahead of any other 2mm or less keyboard I've tried.

I'm legitimately considering buying an M2 Macbook Pro 13 so I can have the final iteration.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by gandalfff »

booi wrote: post #10
lttlrck wrote: post #7

The man has skills but this past due. Apple devices have become sterile, utilitarian, no passion. Sony set a very high watermark practicality and desirability - subjective of course, but just look at what they've done over the years: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/design/gallery/ I hope Apple can inject some creativity.

sony minidisc player is the epitome of design... or I'm just stuck in the 90's

I'm not stuck in the 90s ... which model of Sony Minidisc?

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by willcipriano »

booi wrote: post #10
lttlrck wrote: post #7

The man has skills but this past due. Apple devices have become sterile, utilitarian, no passion. Sony set a very high watermark practicality and desirability - subjective of course, but just look at what they've done over the years: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/design/gallery/ I hope Apple can inject some creativity.

sony minidisc player is the epitome of design... or I'm just stuck in the 90's

I had that growing up and loved it, it was a big upgrade over my discman, but for me the iPod 5th generation is the best personal music device ever created. I recently bought one (my original got stolen a decade ago) and upgraded it to use a 512gb SD card.

It's still the king. Got a pair of planar headphones and I'm hearing things in Beatles songs I've listened to ten thousand times that I've never heard before. When I use it in the car, I don't have to take my eyes off the road to change the track, the subtle audio feedback let's you use the menu without looking at it. It fits well in the hand, I wouldn't want it any smaller or lighter (it's a little too light due to my SD card mod).

No touchscreen, no internet connection and it holds my entire collection and then some.

I don't even like Apple laptops or phones, but that thing is a work of art.

Edit: The best part is I can service it. You could buy almost an entire iPod worth of replacement parts on eBay.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by nomel »

termau wrote: post #31
nomel wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ideally, a cellular modem Does this make sense, these days? My phone's connection is a click away, in my Mac's WiFi menu. What does an integrated modem solve?

You can take the cellular modem in my X1 out of my cold dead hands and not a moment before. Open laptop, connected - no matter where you are in the world.

> Open laptop, connected - no matter where you are in the world.

This is how I have mine set up, when I travel. Open lid, and it automatically connects to my phone. Maybe my use case is different, since I always have my phone with me. I suppose one technical advantage would be the possibility of a better antenna, within the screen.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by pineconebutt »

soganess wrote: post #33
__blockcipher__ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved the feel of the keyboard (contrary to some) but durability and redundancy were god-awful.

I'm in the same camp as the two of you! Sure, I've had mine replaced 5 times, but I love the actuation/feel of the keys. It was/is light years ahead of any other 2mm or less keyboard I've tried. I'm legitimately considering buying an M2 Macbook Pro 13 so I can have the final iteration.

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Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by zamalek »

Nextgrid wrote: post #14
lttlrck wrote: post #7

The man has skills but this past due. Apple devices have become sterile, utilitarian, no passion. Sony set a very high watermark practicality and desirability - subjective of course, but just look at what they've done over the years: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/design/gallery/ I hope Apple can inject some creativity.

> utilitarian I wouldn't say so. My feeling with Apple software in the past ~5 years or so is that it's been a slow devolution into "growth & engagement" and catering to idiots (and nudging them to do counter-productive things) rather than true utility. True utility would be to do a task, do it well, and don't change all the time. Instead, Apple has been devolving more and more into what you'd expect from a typical "…

> catering to idiots

Lots of UI improvements, still no container/jail support in the kernel. It has never been more a lifestyle statement, and less a useful operating system.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by zamalek »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #17
kitsunesoba wrote: post #15

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I’ve been just as happy or happier with my company provided M1 Pro 16” than I was with the much vaunted pre-touchbar 2015 15”. I can’t think of too much more that I’d want from a laptop.

HDMI 2.1, DP 2.0, ECC RAM, replaceable SSDs, non-adhesive batteries, and, ideally, a cellular modem. In my case, it's likely I'll be waiting a long time. What's your company's policy on data safety? I would hope there's something in place should your Mac's motherboard fry.

Two monitors.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Post by termau »

nomel wrote: post #36
termau wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can take the cellular modem in my X1 out of my cold dead hands and not a moment before. Open laptop, connected - no matter where you are in the world.

> Open laptop, connected - no matter where you are in the world. This is how I have mine set up, when I travel. Open lid, and it automatically connects to my phone. Maybe my use case is different, since I always have my phone with me. I suppose one technical advantage would be the possibility of a better antenna, within the screen.

the more obvious advantage is better battery life on my phone having its own on my laptop
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