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How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by brandon »

emptysongglass wrote: post #2

The more important question is where is this magical Google-blessed rolling release Debian available to download? We've all heard rumors of this internal Google distro and what I'm reading is their intent to give back. You can use Microsoft's CBL-Mariner today. Where is Google's?

Most of the stuff that makes the distribution different from Debian Testing is tightly coupled with Google's internal infrastructure and generally uninteresting (or unuseful) to users writ large. Just run Debian!

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by compiler-guy »

Barrin92 wrote: post #5

personally I'm a pretty big fan of opensuse tumbleweed for a rolling distribution because they ship fully tested snapshots each day rather than individual packages. If I understand the article correctly Google's Sieve is similar to the Opensuse Build Service in that regard. It seems like they went for Debian because of the proximity to Ubuntu but I wonder if they ever considered Suse, the ecosystem is pretty good.

The upgrade-in-place plan is made more difficult the more distant from Ubuntu you get. Suse has a great ecosystem, but the transition costs would have been quite a bit higher.

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by abirch »

Barrin92 wrote: post #5

personally I'm a pretty big fan of opensuse tumbleweed for a rolling distribution because they ship fully tested snapshots each day rather than individual packages. If I understand the article correctly Google's Sieve is similar to the Opensuse Build Service in that regard. It seems like they went for Debian because of the proximity to Ubuntu but I wonder if they ever considered Suse, the ecosystem is pretty good.

I liked Suse before Novell acquired it. Is it still good?

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by dxneezal »

I tried to search more regarding Rodete then found this[1]

> … was to get off of Ubuntu's more classic LTS release cycle, and move to the freely-rolling waters of Debian Unstable. An underpublicized but very real reason was that the Google Linux team had a number of Debian Developers on it, who reasonably wanted to be closer to their primary love and affiliation

:blink :blink

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/j4liv4/whats_going_...

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by Arnavion »

abirch wrote: post #15
Barrin92 wrote: post #5

personally I'm a pretty big fan of opensuse tumbleweed for a rolling distribution because they ship fully tested snapshots each day rather than individual packages. If I understand the article correctly Google's Sieve is similar to the Opensuse Build Service in that regard. It seems like they went for Debian because of the proximity to Ubuntu but I wonder if they ever considered Suse, the ecosystem is pretty good.

I liked Suse before Novell acquired it. Is it still good?

Yes. I've been using it for over a decade and it's still great. Like Fedora it's leading the charge in modernization (btrfs, /usr/etc, snapper, Yast, etc) and like Arch it has a big set of up-to-date packages, except they're in the main repo instead of an untrusted AUR.

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by tyingq »

abirch wrote: post #15
Barrin92 wrote: post #5

personally I'm a pretty big fan of opensuse tumbleweed for a rolling distribution because they ship fully tested snapshots each day rather than individual packages. If I understand the article correctly Google's Sieve is similar to the Opensuse Build Service in that regard. It seems like they went for Debian because of the proximity to Ubuntu but I wonder if they ever considered Suse, the ecosystem is pretty good.

I liked Suse before Novell acquired it. Is it still good?

Fwiw, Suse is a public company again and Novell is split up into various different places like NetIq (eDirectory) then Microfocus for most of the "dead-ish" products like Groupwise and File/Print services.
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