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Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

#21
Is this the guy responsible for the Intel Macbook Pros becoming a useless single-port monstrosity with unusable keyboards? I think his personal motto was "Make it as thin as possible without sacrificing usability, then forget the second half and make it thinner just because I said so."

If so, good riddance! I wish Apple would go back to being an engineering company instead of a boutique advertiser.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

#22

Is this the guy responsible for the Intel Macbook Pros becoming a useless single-port monstrosity with unusable keyboards? I think his personal motto was "Make it as thin as possible without sacrificing usability, then forget the second half and make it thinner just because I said so." If so, good riddance! I wish Apple would go back to being an engineering company instead of a boutique advertiser.

Apple was originally an arts-based company, and much more concerned with design over engineering.

As for what Jony Ive came up with, his Wikipedia page has a lot of detail: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive

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#23
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The man has skills but this past due. Apple devices have become sterile, utilitarian, no passion. Sony set a very high watermark practicality and desirability - subjective of course, but just look at what they've done over the years: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/design/gallery/ I hope Apple can inject some creativity.

Apple devices are the opposite of utilitarian. Utility is routinely sacrificed for the purpose of shaving off 1mm to tout in marketing material.

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#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been just as happy or happier with my company provided M1 Pro 16” than I was with the much vaunted pre-touchbar 2015 15”. I can’t think of too much more that I’d want from a laptop.

HDMI 2.1, DP 2.0, ECC RAM, replaceable SSDs, non-adhesive batteries, and, ideally, a cellular modem. In my case, it's likely I'll be waiting a long time. What's your company's policy on data safety? I would hope there's something in place should your Mac's motherboard fry.

My use case at least would benefit little from any of those listed features. Not that I wouldn’t take them if they were available without sacrifices elsewhere, but they’re cherries on top, not dealbreakers.

Data safety isn’t a concern because changes are pushed regularly. The amount of work lost would be at most two or three hours’ worth.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

#25

While I doubt this will happen, I am interested to see if any of Apples products (recent MacBook Pros excluded) will get a drastic design overhaul.

Could you imagine if they finally made the Magic Mouse a decent mouse? Recharge from the front, more ergonomic, great pairing/switching.

The whole point of it not charging from the front is so people don't just always leave it plugged in

Maybe make it chime so you have to unplug it and they keep their annoying "we know better than you" while leaving users to their own literal devices

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

#26

Is this the guy responsible for the Intel Macbook Pros becoming a useless single-port monstrosity with unusable keyboards? I think his personal motto was "Make it as thin as possible without sacrificing usability, then forget the second half and make it thinner just because I said so." If so, good riddance! I wish Apple would go back to being an engineering company instead of a boutique advertiser.

I know I’m in the minority but I really love my work 2019 MBP’s butterfly keyboard. I’m a very light typist, maybe that’s why, I dunno. I’ll miss it when it’s gone. I have a personal M1 MBP, and while I like it more in almost every other way, the keyboard is just ok by comparison.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been just as happy or happier with my company provided M1 Pro 16” than I was with the much vaunted pre-touchbar 2015 15”. I can’t think of too much more that I’d want from a laptop.

HDMI 2.1, DP 2.0, ECC RAM, replaceable SSDs, non-adhesive batteries, and, ideally, a cellular modem. In my case, it's likely I'll be waiting a long time. What's your company's policy on data safety? I would hope there's something in place should your Mac's motherboard fry.

> ideally, a cellular modem

Does this make sense, these days? My phone's connection is a click away, in my Mac's WiFi menu. What does an integrated modem solve?

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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post #26

Is this the guy responsible for the Intel Macbook Pros becoming a useless single-port monstrosity with unusable keyboards? I think his personal motto was "Make it as thin as possible without sacrificing usability, then forget the second half and make it thinner just because I said so." If so, good riddance! I wish Apple would go back to being an engineering company instead of a boutique advertiser.

I know I’m in the minority but I really love my work 2019 MBP’s butterfly keyboard. I’m a very light typist, maybe that’s why, I dunno. I’ll miss it when it’s gone. I have a personal M1 MBP, and while I like it more in almost every other way, the keyboard is just ok by comparison.

I loved the feel of the keyboard (contrary to some) but durability and redundancy were god-awful.

Re: Apple ends consulting agreement with Jony Ive

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post #23
post #7

The man has skills but this past due. Apple devices have become sterile, utilitarian, no passion. Sony set a very high watermark practicality and desirability - subjective of course, but just look at what they've done over the years: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/design/gallery/ I hope Apple can inject some creativity.

Apple devices are the opposite of utilitarian. Utility is routinely sacrificed for the purpose of shaving off 1mm to tout in marketing material.

That’s not true anymore in the recent iterations
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