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Re: Don't use MongoDB

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You submitted an anonymous anti-mongo story under the name 'nmongo'? What was your agenda here?

My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the FUD i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!

Did you intend the flurry of "mee too" comments?

Re: Don't use MongoDB

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You submitted an anonymous anti-mongo story under the name 'nmongo'? What was your agenda here?

My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the FUD i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!

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Re: Don't use MongoDB

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You submitted an anonymous anti-mongo story under the name 'nmongo'? What was your agenda here?

My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the FUD i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!

No one made any architecture decisions in the few hours this was a story. You managed to cause a dustup and come out looking like a sociopath.

Re: Don't use MongoDB

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You submitted an anonymous anti-mongo story under the name 'nmongo'? What was your agenda here?

My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the FUD i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!

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Re: Don't use MongoDB

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You submitted an anonymous anti-mongo story under the name 'nmongo'? What was your agenda here?

My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the FUD i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!

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Re: Don't use MongoDB

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From CTO of 10gen First, I tried to find any client of ours with a track record like this and have been unsuccessful. I personally have looked at every single customer case that’s every come in (there are about 1600 of them) and cannot match this story to any of them. I am confused as to the origin here, so answers cannot be complete in some cases. Some comments below, but the most important thing I wanted to say is…

Given the response, what are some best practices/gotchas for MongoDB then? It might be helpful for 10gen to put together a short doc on what to watch out for evaluators.

When I was doing my research and came across a bunch of "Why not to use MongoDB" articles, I looked at alternatives solution to see if there was anything "better." Granted NoSQL is the new kid on the block but I wanted to see what my options were. Guess what I'm using, MongoDB. Why? Their documentation is fan-f'n-tastic. Their newsgroup support is just as good, lots of folks who help troubleshoot issue, including the developers themselves.

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Some are also (fairly) questioning "why the anonymity?", and "where is the evidence?" Those two things are connected: I can't provide the evidence without revealing identity. And the reason for the anonymity is we still have some small databases with 10gen and a current support contract. I had intended to go public with all this after we had transitioned off the system entirely, but more and more reports have continu…

Are you willing to reveal your and your company's identity once you're completely off of Mongo?

Yep. I do regret not GPG signing it or something so we could later claim it without more conspiracy theories. But I'll blog about it on an official blog as soon as we're clear of any interest in MongoDB.

Re: Don't use MongoDB

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My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the FUD i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!

And in the process of discrediting, you might have turned many people away from MongoDB. You actions seem irresponsible to me. Unbeknownst to you at the time of posting, I'm sure, but your blog has gone somewhat viral, and it could take 10gen a while to recover from the negative press. Did you consider this when posting? Kudos to Eliot for coming on and answering your phony accusations. I feel sorry for him though as…

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Re: Don't use MongoDB

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My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the FUD i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!

And in the process of discrediting, you might have turned many people away from MongoDB. You actions seem irresponsible to me. Unbeknownst to you at the time of posting, I'm sure, but your blog has gone somewhat viral, and it could take 10gen a while to recover from the negative press. Did you consider this when posting? Kudos to Eliot for coming on and answering your phony accusations. I feel sorry for him though as…

We were trolled. And we fell for it. I hope we learned something in the process.

Re: Don't use MongoDB

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ORMs are a pain to use. In addition to know the domain you need to map from and the domain you map to, you now also have to understand the mapping process.

...in exchange for dramatically pared-down and simplified code, consistent data access practices, and hundreds of hours of developer time saved. Driving a car is tough too - how to steer, drivers license, gas, insurance, what a PITA. Yet somehow it remains preferable to walking in many cases, despite the latter being mastered by most two year olds.

If you need all that code to talk to the database I suspect you are in effect using your database as the integration layer. Ouch.
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