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Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

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Way to brighten my day with awe and wonder, way to ruin my day with existential dread about our place in the universe.

Existential dread pro-tip: The Wikipedia page on "Ultimate fate of the universe" is a fantastic way to compell the question of why anything ultimately matters. Coming up with personal answers to this is the ultimate character resolve exercise!

I found Kurzgesagt's video on Optimistic Nihilism helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

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post #42

I am confused because I thought it was an infrared telescope? Are these images as received, or are they frequency shifted post processed into the visible range?

Almost all images are frequency shifted, often just to what makes things look cool. Still makes it cool IMO!

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

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Direct links --

Stephan's Quintet (NIRCam and MIRI Composite Image):

https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7DB1FHPMJCCY59CQGZC1YJQ.png

Southern Ring Nebula (NIRCam and MIRI Images Side by Side):

https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G79R28V7S4AXDN8NG5QCPGE3.png

“Cosmic Cliffs” in the Carina Nebula (NIRCam Image):

https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7ETPF7DVBJAC42JR5N6EQRH.png

Webb's First Deep Field (NIRCam Image):

https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7DDBW5NNXTJV8PGHB0465QP.png

Exoplanet WASP-96 b (NIRISS Transmission Spectrum):

https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7NBXDHYYSVBP2M476PRGG3A.png

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

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post #55

Way to brighten my day with awe and wonder, way to ruin my day with existential dread about our place in the universe.

Existential dread pro-tip: The Wikipedia page on "Ultimate fate of the universe" is a fantastic way to compell the question of why anything ultimately matters. Coming up with personal answers to this is the ultimate character resolve exercise!

Nothing matters. You live for a while and then you die, but it sure can be a cool trip getting there!

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

#66

Way to brighten my day with awe and wonder, way to ruin my day with existential dread about our place in the universe.

it's terrifying how alone and ephemeral we truly are, that there are already places in our expanding universe that will never be reachable even via communication with any technology on any time scale (unless universe expansion reverses course). that any communication we may receive today will be from civilizations that have ceased to exist thousands to billions of years ago. and humans will likely never travel outside the solar system.

consciousness is a hell of a drug

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

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Dumb question. Why can’t we focus on a single exoplanet, look for mountains, grass, buildings? Why am I so stupid but isn’t this the obvious thing to do?

It’s because those planets are incredibly far away. The distance is so huge, there is no way to even picture it. It would be a single pixel on any telescope we could conceivably build. What we can do though is measure the chemical composition of their atmospheres. This could be very interesting if we found some hallmarks of life on a rocky planet.

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok to be honest I know it's not cool to admit it, but so far it all looks the same. If someone told me that the Webb picture was taken by Hubble I would not have thought about it for an extra second. I'm hoping that in the future we see pictures of locations and environments that are mind-blowing to the average person who loves space.

The difference is in a) the details and b) the length of time the telescope has to gather light to get the photo. JWST got the photo in hours when Hubble took weeks, and there's easily 10x as many objects in the JWST shot. JWST can thus observe much fainter and much more distant objects - galaxies billions of years old, exoplanets, etc., and it can do more of it .

Of course, I get it, but we are allowed to admit that to the average person so far it looks like more of the same.

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://petapixel.com/2022/07/11/comparing-hubble-to-james-w...

Yeah, that's not very good implementation. PetaPixel usually have good content, but using a GIF to compare these two images? Come on! You can see the compression artifacts very easily.

How about this one, by a user from here?

https://blog.wolfd.me/hubble-jwst/

Re: James Webb first images – complete set of high resolution shots now live

#70

Dumb question. Why can’t we focus on a single exoplanet, look for mountains, grass, buildings? Why am I so stupid but isn’t this the obvious thing to do?

Need a really big mirror, like size of planet to start with.

Another neat idea is to use the Sun as a gravitational lens. But you you would need it put it way past Pluto to get proper focus. So maybe another hundred years to get tech and resources to that point.

https://www.space.com/earth-like-exoplanet-imaging-with-sun

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