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Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Re: Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Post by deltree7 »

corrral wrote: post #7
tmountain wrote: post #5

It's a pretty terrible situation for folks that build their livelihood curating a channel to have to accept the risk that their channel could be taken down at any moment due to a false positive regarding copyright violation. Making matters worse, it sounds like there's no real recourse beyond taking your grievance onto social media and hoping your channel has enough clout to get Youtube's attention. In this case, it…

> Seems like there's gotta be a better way. Video "channels" should be like podcasts: hosting and discovery largely separate. Subscription, client-side. YouTube shouldn't exist.

Only a seriously out-of-touch elite dude will claim that something which organically became popular shouldn't exist.

By your brilliant logic, Hacker News shouldn't exist.

Re: Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Post by metadat »

buildsjets wrote: post #9
metadat wrote: post #3

Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32049137 (1 day ago; 94 points, 16 comments)

Not dupe. That article is about the stream being taken down. This article is about the stream being restored, and YouTube's reaction.

Oh, thanks! I've updated accordingly.

Re: Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Post by sillysaurusx »

BudaDude wrote: post #8
buzzwords wrote: post #6

YT couldn't care less if creators are unhappy with anything at the moment. There is no real competition, so creators have to just deal with it. I hope for a real competition, where there will be a mass exodus.

This is becoming less true, TikTok is a major competitor. Yeah there is Youtube shorts, but its largely just reuploaded TikTok videos.

I’m delighted to see that people are recognizing what a threat tiktok poses.

I don’t blame people for being skeptical. It’s easy to forget that big companies die due to being transcended, not replaced. The YouTube killer won’t look anything like YouTube, and tiktok fits that bill nicely.

Case in point: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR2KUDn8/?k=1

Google is realizing how bad it is that they can’t index TikToks, the same way they realized how bad it is they couldn’t index tweets in 2015 or so.

Re: Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Post by ziddoap »

BudaDude wrote: post #8
buzzwords wrote: post #6

YT couldn't care less if creators are unhappy with anything at the moment. There is no real competition, so creators have to just deal with it. I hope for a real competition, where there will be a mass exodus.

This is becoming less true, TikTok is a major competitor. Yeah there is Youtube shorts, but its largely just reuploaded TikTok videos.

Maybe for certain segments/formats, but TikTok doesn't do long-form videos, does it?

Most of my YouTube watching is things like Anton Petrov's 15+ minute science videos, PBS Space Time, hour+ live streams, DefCon/Blackhat/Other Conference talks, and a hundred other things that I don't think are available or desired on TikToks platform (and maybe not even supported? I'm not sure what the max video length is on TikTok).

Re: Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Post by code51 »

mirashii wrote: post #2

From a tweet: https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1546419223466999809#m > & thx for your patience as we sorted it out But they haven't really sorted it out, have they? False copyright strike claims have been plaguing creators for years. This is just another case of someone needing social media and a huge reach or an inside connection to Google employees to get human eyes on a situation and "resolve" it, with no re…

Exactly.

Google is not paying my Admob money even after 5 months has passed (no violation, self-close of account)

Through the Kafkaesque maze of non-existent Adsense support, my case (they say) finally got escalated to a payment person at Google. Yet, I didn't hear update for the past month.

You can't ask anything about your case and you can't get any time projection on when you'll hear anything back.

If you don't have big traffic or huge social reach, you are expendable and can get stuck in a never-ending hell.

Re: Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Post by sillysaurusx »

ziddoap wrote: post #14
BudaDude wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is becoming less true, TikTok is a major competitor. Yeah there is Youtube shorts, but its largely just reuploaded TikTok videos.

Maybe for certain segments/formats, but TikTok doesn't do long-form videos, does it? Most of my YouTube watching is things like Anton Petrov's 15+ minute science videos, PBS Space Time, hour+ live streams, DefCon/Blackhat/Other Conference talks, and a hundred other things that I don't think are available or desired on TikToks platform (and maybe not even supported? I'm not sure what the max video length is on TikTok)…

It sure does. They enabled 10min videos, and at this point it's a meme that creators are getting roasted for doing part 2's. (I.e. breaking up a long video into multiple parts for no reason.)

Not only that, but lots of tiktok accounts are literally just reuploading full youtube videos from channels like Kurzgesagt. Not happy about that, but it's also a sign of a successful platform. Facebook had the same situation going on.

Most of my tiktok watching is exactly the same as yours on youtube, by the way. My educational playlist is at 242 entries, whereas the lol playlist is around 160.

Re: Lofi Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream

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Post by ziddoap »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #19
ziddoap wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe for certain segments/formats, but TikTok doesn't do long-form videos, does it? Most of my YouTube watching is things like Anton Petrov's 15+ minute science videos, PBS Space Time, hour+ live streams, DefCon/Blackhat/Other Conference talks, and a hundred other things that I don't think are available or desired on TikToks platform (and maybe not even supported? I'm not sure what the max video length is on TikTok)…

It sure does. They enabled 10min videos, and at this point it's a meme that creators are getting roasted for doing part 2's. (I.e. breaking up a long video into multiple parts for no reason.) Not only that, but lots of tiktok accounts are literally just reuploading full youtube videos from channels like Kurzgesagt. Not happy about that, but it's also a sign of a successful platform. Facebook had the same situation go…

Interesting, I guess that goes to show how long it's been since I've explored what TikTok offers. Thanks for the info.
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