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BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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bluGill wrote: post #102
rockinghigh wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither this article nor my personal experience with Tesla support your claim. > Tesla owners reported more problems with their exterior and interior than with other systems like propulsion, battery or infotainment and navigation. Tesla issues aren't about maintenance, they are mostly about quality control. Maintenance on Tesla is simple: air filters, brakes, tires, air conditioning. https://www.tesla.com/support/car…

ON a modern car you only add oil changes until you get to 100k miles. Oil changes are fast and cheap. Except for air conditioning - unless you mean the air filter the air conditioner should NEVER need maintenance - if you do maintenance it means an environmental disaster - they are closed systems and so the only time you service them is if they lost the Freon.

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Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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aabhay wrote: post #111

Am I the only one that actually likes this idea? I live in Austin, where we only need heated seats like three months out of the year at most. On top of that, if I pay $999 for heated seats as an addon, that’s equivalent to 4.5 years of subscription at $18/m. If I could turn off lots of features while I’m on vacation, etc. I think that’s a huge win. But clearly I’m in the extreme minority.

The components are already in the car, adding complexity and cost to the purchase. What happens when BMW turns off the servers running the licensing for your car? No more heated seats period. Who would want to buy the car from you knowing the heated seats are subscription based? Does the car have wifi or do you have to also pay for a cell connection for the car to activate these features? It's madness the whole way down.

Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Post by blippage »

LeeroyWasHere wrote: post #13

They're working on much worst things... Prepare for car microtransactions.

The more that time passes, the more reality resembles a Philip K Dick novel, where you have to pay money to open a door and cereal boxes and newspapers (read "internet") had animations that tried to push product. PKD's satire on consumerism sure is turning uncomfortably prescient.

I'm expecting some kind of crescendo of insanity until we finally hit the reset button.

Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Post by winternett »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #79

We are rapidly moving towards Feudalism. If someone can charge you for using things you already bought and 'own', then average man has no property rights. The fee could be increased at any time, or new fees could be introduced. As the housing crysis deepens, average person will never own a home either. So average person will be in the same position as a medieval serf, conpletely dependand on the whims of the lord, pr…

I was ranting about this 2 years ago and a lot of people laughed it off...

I cited an auto start feature o VOLVO cars that required a siriusXM membership.

It's unfathomable that we reached this point of monthly subscriptions being implemented on things that we've already paid for. It's the first sign that we're in for a wave of not feudalism, but outright economic slavery. There is no rational consumer protection against many predatory business practices, and many are eager to be a part of monthly subscriptions for useless services for lord knows what motivational reason.

Mike Judge was a genius for making the movie Idiocracy, it's our future. No way around it now. :[

Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Post by auxfil »

PaywallBuster wrote: post #108
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you really don’t want to burn fossil fuels, a $1000 bafang mid drive ebike kit can turn a regular bicycle into a hill crushing monster and can be installed with almost no specialized tools. I love electric bikes and want to install the bafang kit myself, but lets keep things in perspective - it's not gonna get my pregnant wife to the hospital.

you keep a car for something that will happen once per ~ 4 years?

I take it you think people that get life insurance are suckers?

Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Post by xuhu »

gfunk911 wrote: post #100

This seems no different than Intel manufacturing fewer distinct things and using CPU locking to sell at more price points. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/2239/cpu-lock It’s cheaper to physically put the functionality in all the cars than to differentiate at assembly time. We don’t have the same visceral reaction to paying for options at the dealer. (I am assuming they aren’t adding this charge RETROACTIVELY. T…

Are you paying Intel $18 per month for your extra cores ?

Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Post by jen20 »

aabhay wrote: post #111

Am I the only one that actually likes this idea? I live in Austin, where we only need heated seats like three months out of the year at most. On top of that, if I pay $999 for heated seats as an addon, that’s equivalent to 4.5 years of subscription at $18/m. If I could turn off lots of features while I’m on vacation, etc. I think that’s a huge win. But clearly I’m in the extreme minority.

I’ve never once used my heated seats in Austin, but am absolutely annoyed the only way to get VENTILATED seats is to buy a super high end car with a much bigger engine than I want.

Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Post by duxup »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #79

We are rapidly moving towards Feudalism. If someone can charge you for using things you already bought and 'own', then average man has no property rights. The fee could be increased at any time, or new fees could be introduced. As the housing crysis deepens, average person will never own a home either. So average person will be in the same position as a medieval serf, conpletely dependand on the whims of the lord, pr…

I certainly don't like it for cars and etc.

But I don't mind it for some things. I have no interest in owning a pile of movies, music and etc.

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Post by lpapez »

chrisseaton wrote: post #128
basicplus2 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or...you could put a switch on your dash that turns the heaters on and off as you wish..

That just means you're paying the same money up front rather than as a subscription. Why's that better?

The heated seats are already in the car, this is about paying more to unlock something you already paid for.

Re: BMW heated seats subscription costs $18 per month in South Korea

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Post by aabhay »

post_break wrote: post #132
aabhay wrote: post #111

Am I the only one that actually likes this idea? I live in Austin, where we only need heated seats like three months out of the year at most. On top of that, if I pay $999 for heated seats as an addon, that’s equivalent to 4.5 years of subscription at $18/m. If I could turn off lots of features while I’m on vacation, etc. I think that’s a huge win. But clearly I’m in the extreme minority.

The components are already in the car, adding complexity and cost to the purchase. What happens when BMW turns off the servers running the licensing for your car? No more heated seats period. Who would want to buy the car from you knowing the heated seats are subscription based? Does the car have wifi or do you have to also pay for a cell connection for the car to activate these features? It's madness the whole way d…

My current BMW comes with both a Wi-Fi chip and a 3G chip, at no recurring cost. Seems quite feasible for me to connect to the car via app and pay on my phone.
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