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Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Estonia beg to differ: https://e-estonia.com

I beg to differ on Estonia's behalf. Estonia is awesome. Happy e-resident and Estonian company owner.

Happy Wise customer, Happy Xolo customer. I love Bolt (when available).

Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

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What? In denmark, we have: - Government issued MFA/SSO solution (nemid, now mitid) - Online tax filing - Drivers License/Health Card apps - Secure communications platform (e-boks) for official messages And thats just off the top of my head. The likelihood that the US catches up to this in any meaningful way is slim to none.

I wouldn't really show off nemid/mitid as a shining example for digitalization in Denmark. Mitid came out already with security issues[1].

I do agree that the 20-30 years behind is a gross overestimation, but acting like we're a shining example of modern IT is a stretch as well.

[1] https://www.version2.dk/artikel/eksperter-saar-tvivl-om-sikk...

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Large parts of GDS already run on AWS, and I think that may even have been the case for PaaS itself.

I know HMRC went all in on DynamoDB when I was working indirectly for them via a provider. This was in 2017.

No way they finally moved the NI db off of sybase?

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> To be fair, Europe as a whole is 20-30 years behind on most fronts from the state of the art of information technology. This is a gross, unjustified generalization. Sure, there's a lot of old crap around, but that's no different from other parts of the world; but there's also lots of new, modern stuff, with a huge diversity across the continent. Just to give a common counterexample, the SEPA system allows me to tri…

SEPA is good but not that good. It normally takes two days for my money to arrive, longer over weekends and holidays. The UK Faster Payments system actually does work within seconds most of the time, but only within the UK.

I can transfer funds from my Finnish bank account to my German bank account and I get a push notification from the German one within seconds of submitting it. If your SEPA transfers aren't instant, it just means that one or both of the banks involved haven't just adapted it yet.

Banks might also have only implemented receiver or sending, but not both. My mom can receive my instant SEPA transfers, but she can't send me one back since her bank has only implemented the receiving part.

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> We also need to operate with a growth mindset in GDS Is it just me or is it weird to see "startup speak" from gov agencies?

That's not startup speak it's "business consultancy" speak and the UK goverment loves to hire business consultants to tell the uk civil service how to work.

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Don't feel bad. Europeans have a much better work-life balance. Plenty of parental leave. A culture that prioritizes life outside the office. Six weeks of guaranteed vacation that people actually take. Etc. Those things have a price. Namely, when people work less, less innovation happens, which means less productivity growth happens, which means less innovation happens, and so on. I lived in Germany for two years. I…

So we should all be learning Chinese by your logic?

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Yet Germany is the 4th largest economy in the entire world with a GDP of near 4 trillion US dollars, despite being a country of only 83 million people (only the 19th largest country in world). Perhaps the Germans have figured out how to work smarter, not harder...

U.S. productivity is higher than Germany (outputs / inputs), so it appears Germany hasn’t quite figured out how to worker smarter than people in the U.S.

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