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Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by trasz »

>The big cloud providers (AWS, Azure, GCP and others) have upped their game

So now UK citizens are going to be forced to use services from a country known for largely non-working legal system (where being provably innocent is not enough to call off execution, see Scalia; where a monetary fine is an adequate sentence for premeditated murder, see OG Simpson, not to mention de facto legal immunity for cops committing crimes on duty) and for droning random civilians with impunity (see Hague Invasion Act).

Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by angio »

trasz wrote: post #21

>The big cloud providers (AWS, Azure, GCP and others) have upped their game So now UK citizens are going to be forced to use services from a country known for largely non-working legal system (where being provably innocent is not enough to call off execution, see Scalia; where a monetary fine is an adequate sentence for premeditated murder, see OG Simpson, not to mention de facto legal immunity for cops committing cr…

That's a feature. The UK can ask the US to request data to AWS about UK citizens without breaking any law about spying on UK citizens. Now they can filter all citizens that ticked "muslim" or "arab" in one of the many gov forms, cross reference with fb/twitter/insta for signs of extremism and flag them as suspicious individuals.

Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by atwood22 »

mordae wrote: post #2

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Don't feel bad. Europeans have a much better work-life balance. Plenty of parental leave. A culture that prioritizes life outside the office. Six weeks of guaranteed vacation that people actually take. Etc.

Those things have a price. Namely, when people work less, less innovation happens, which means less productivity growth happens, which means less innovation happens, and so on. I lived in Germany for two years. I absolutely loved it. However, despite its reputation, it's not a place that I would say prioritizes work (compared to the U.S.)

Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by dbbk »

asib wrote: post #6

They mention a handful of services like GOV.UK Notify, GOV.UK Pay, the GOV.UK Design System, the Prototype Kit, and the new GOV.UK Forms product. Is anyone able to clarify whether these things are collectively referred to or considered part of the Gov.uk PaaS offering (and therefore will all be decomissioned) or not? It wasn't clear to me from the article and I'm not otherwise familiar.

No PaaS is only the hosting

Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by severalbadgers »

asib wrote: post #6

They mention a handful of services like GOV.UK Notify, GOV.UK Pay, the GOV.UK Design System, the Prototype Kit, and the new GOV.UK Forms product. Is anyone able to clarify whether these things are collectively referred to or considered part of the Gov.uk PaaS offering (and therefore will all be decomissioned) or not? It wasn't clear to me from the article and I'm not otherwise familiar.

Notify, Pay, Design System, Prototype Kit and Forms are unaffected by this news.

Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

Denvercoder9 wrote: post #18
wyuenho wrote: post #9

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> To be fair, Europe as a whole is 20-30 years behind on most fronts from the state of the art of information technology. This is a gross, unjustified generalization. Sure, there's a lot of old crap around, but that's no different from other parts of the world; but there's also lots of new, modern stuff, with a huge diversity across the continent. Just to give a common counterexample, the SEPA system allows me to tri…

SEPA is good but not that good. It normally takes two days for my money to arrive, longer over weekends and holidays. The UK Faster Payments system actually does work within seconds most of the time, but only within the UK.

Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by severalbadgers »

loafoe wrote: post #4

Another Cloud foundry based platform moving on to Kubernetes. Perhaps https://github.com/cloudfoundry/cf-for-k8s can provide a simple migration path..

Have you seen Korifi? https://github.com/cloudfoundry/korifi

This is the one I expect to become the primary CF product on k8s

Re: Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS

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Post by jon-wood »

trasz wrote: post #21

>The big cloud providers (AWS, Azure, GCP and others) have upped their game So now UK citizens are going to be forced to use services from a country known for largely non-working legal system (where being provably innocent is not enough to call off execution, see Scalia; where a monetary fine is an adequate sentence for premeditated murder, see OG Simpson, not to mention de facto legal immunity for cops committing cr…

Large parts of GDS already run on AWS, and I think that may even have been the case for PaaS itself.
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