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Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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It’s a now legendary document designed to promote Pepsi’s brand. They nailed it. That other stuff was covered in another document.

So, first of all, was this document actually meant for public consumption like you suggest? Second of all, do you actually think anyone who reads this document will associate positive feelings with Pepsi? All it's making me think is "Man, those Coke ads with the polar bears were pretty cool."

It doesnt matter. It’s all freestyling. All the wild bullshit in the document is there because some pepsi execs reacted to it positively so they went all in on that. Then the document becomes infamous so they will say it was purposely nuts and use it for their own marketing.

These things are done for the execs not consumers. Same goes for Tropicana.

Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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> Most of these are products of high uric acid level That's a very unsubstantiated claim. I'm not debating the association of hyperuricemia with metabolic syndrome or cardiovascular risk factors, but I don't think we have much evidence to establish a causal link between hyperuricemia and all the morbidities listed.

Robert Lustig: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kDJsxw0uMLM Perlmutter: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6qZKH_xuYl4

This is not an RCT nor does it point to one supporting your uric acid claims.

And Lustig is well known, he's on the border of being a crackpot, unfortunately. Mehmet Oz is a professor emeritus of Columbia, and contributed some amazing shit to the field of cardiology, but now he is undoubtedly a crackpot, so just having some credentials and even a good history is not an automatic pass to get out of presenting high-quality scientific methods.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4822166/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4078442/

And.. this is not the first time this has come up here even: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15760599

Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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Pepsi, Tropicana and the like, and their parent companies, are a direct cause of the Metabolic Syndrome epidemic in (particularly) the US, other former UK colonies, and UK, causing many times the preventable deaths from COVID, year in and year out. The "cause of death" noted for these cases never mentions metabolic syndrome (variously, fatty liver disease, cirrhosis, processed-food disease), but rather secondary illn…

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Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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Robert Lustig: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kDJsxw0uMLM Perlmutter: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6qZKH_xuYl4

This is not an RCT nor does it point to one supporting your uric acid claims. And Lustig is well known, he's on the border of being a crackpot, unfortunately. Mehmet Oz is a professor emeritus of Columbia, and contributed some amazing shit to the field of cardiology, but now he is undoubtedly a crackpot, so just having some credentials and even a good history is not an automatic pass to get out of presenting high-qua…

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Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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The lid really is great. But yeah that's a drastic change (new logo, new typography, new slogan, new image, new lid). They always have to throw the baby with the bath water and be radically modern with every detail. Reddit's new design went heavy on modern/JS styling and not the raw simple HN-style text-heavy interface. They should have focused on loading the links->comments, pictures, video as quick as possible. The…

Tangentially Reddit seems determined to make me stop visiting it. When they finally kill old. I won't anymore. The new reddit mobile web experience is incoherent, I get that they're pushing the app but no thanks.

Came across a thread yesterday on Reddit on how ads on Reddit can now be no longer downvoted. That's an indication of where they are headed and who they prioritise ...

Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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Metrics to drive up numbers are the way forward. You need to test theories and prove them with data and experiments. THIS is what is expected in a report; and I see nothing I expect in this report. Everything you see here is NOT sophistication. It has no science it's just an illusion. The use of geometry and technical jargon gives the illusion of legitimacy however this stuff is no more legit then the word 'science'…

Maybe this is a generational thing, but the idea of not knowing what you’ll get in a box of chocolate is an entirely foreign notion to me.

Never had favourites, quality street or roses? Maybe these are only in the UK? You know what you could get, but not how many of each type.

Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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despite how silly this may seem to many in the HN audience, I will contend that: if you were running a multi-billion dollar sugar water company whose main moat is the brand, and spent hundreds of millions on ads each year as one of the key line items in the budget, you too would want this level of sophistication and thought put into a brand refresh. Probably even more. And you can imagine that this document was debat…

>you too would want this level of sophistication and thought put into a brand refresh. Probably even more

Yes "sophistication, data-science, a/b testing, consumer science(the real type)". None of that is in the pdf.

Re: Pepsi: Breathtaking Design Strategy (2008) [pdf]

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>Once he freaked out in a meeting because a CD did not work in the CD player, so he took the CD out and smashed it in to pieces on the conference room table. The IT guy , who was standing behind him, ended up going to the hospital because the shards from the CD flew into his eyes Did the author of this article ever try breaking a CD? They don't shatter like that and the shards certainly aren't gonna fly far enough to…

The whole CD doesn't shatter, but the edges of the break do. To see this effect on steroids, put a CD through a shredder: a common security procedure. You're playing Russian Roulette with your eyeballs if you don't wear eye protection when doing this.

What on earth are you doing that's causing this? I've never seen a shredded do anything other than chop a CD into little strips.
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