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Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by raverbashing »

mrtksn wrote: post #38
raverbashing wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your haven't seen them because you've kept to places where they don't exist Hospitality workers are usually sink or swim. You won't find many people but hard workers there (local or immigrants) Now of course this ignores the ones that don't work and the cultural clashes that happen with lots of immigrants Framing everything as "immigration good/bad" is of course the main issue, it's like saying you fix obesity with e…

See, my exposure is not limited to hospitality because after work I didn’t go to my house in Chelsea. The first few weeks I went to my hostel in Isle of Dogs, Camden and Seven Sisters. Then I a went to my house share in Brixton, Peckham, Kilburn and Lewisham. I changed a lot of places because hostels have 1 week limit and renting is pain in the ars due to catch 22 on proof of address. I met very large number of peopl…

Good, that's a more colorful story

You can find the ones that don't work in the same places you find the locals that don't work (not saying it's the majority - and it might be even smaller than local unemployment). Or you can search for statistics around that area.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/mi...

> estimated the net fiscal contribution of EEA migrants in the financial year (FY) 2016/17 at £4.7bn, compared to a net cost of £9bn for non-EEA migrants.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/th...

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by mrtksn »

raverbashing wrote: post #41
mrtksn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See, my exposure is not limited to hospitality because after work I didn’t go to my house in Chelsea. The first few weeks I went to my hostel in Isle of Dogs, Camden and Seven Sisters. Then I a went to my house share in Brixton, Peckham, Kilburn and Lewisham. I changed a lot of places because hostels have 1 week limit and renting is pain in the ars due to catch 22 on proof of address. I met very large number of peopl…

Good, that's a more colorful story You can find the ones that don't work in the same places you find the locals that don't work (not saying it's the majority - and it might be even smaller than local unemployment). Or you can search for statistics around that area. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/mi... > estimated the net fiscal contribution of EEA migrants in the financial year (FY) 2016/17…

non-EEA probably means illegal immigrants too. You can’t really contribute into the social security system when you are not allowed to work legally. That doesn’t mean that you don’t contribute to the society through your hard work.

I’ve met people with refugee status who did receive some benefits and worked hard illegally. I’m not going to count them as a cost, they were working in construction jobs, making honest living and not taking the benefits was not an option for them because they would have had to explain how do they sustain themselves. A Palestinian guy that I met who was in this situation is now doing real estate development, now legally since he eventually got a legal status. There are plenty like that.

Do you know how expensive UK is? You can’t have a life on benefits, unless you are rich you have to work.

It doesn’t make any sense to go to UK to spend your life in a room barely being able to buy food using the state benefits.

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by jen20 »

olivermarks wrote: post #3

Illegal immigration into the UK from the third world is far greater now than it was in the era of Mo Farah's childhood. I have to wonder how the UK social construct can survive with the huge numbers of people entering given the lack of housing, water, food etc https://youtu.be/PAeRejE467g

What UK social construct, exactly?

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by aikah »

mrtksn wrote: post #6
olivermarks wrote: post #3

Illegal immigration into the UK from the third world is far greater now than it was in the era of Mo Farah's childhood. I have to wonder how the UK social construct can survive with the huge numbers of people entering given the lack of housing, water, food etc https://youtu.be/PAeRejE467g

Most immigrants are economically very active since starting a new life from zero requires that. Unless you can't physically fit people in the island, the solution would be to let the immigrants work legally. Number of houses are not fixed like the total number of bitcoins, people can build new ones. Despite the political rhetoric and recent trends, immigration is a good thing and the problems it causes can be reduced…

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Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by brippalcharrid »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #27
olivermarks wrote: post #3

Illegal immigration into the UK from the third world is far greater now than it was in the era of Mo Farah's childhood. I have to wonder how the UK social construct can survive with the huge numbers of people entering given the lack of housing, water, food etc https://youtu.be/PAeRejE467g

> I have to wonder how the UK social construct can survive with the huge numbers of people entering Wow like, are you concerned about Replacement maybe? Seems a little racist to me but I'm not that Great at european geopolitics I guess.

I suppose the folks at the UN must have been swept up by racist rhetoric when they started writing reports about Replacement Migration for Western countries.

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by yunohn »

mrtksn wrote: post #11
sva_ wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheap labor that isn't allowed to vote. We see this all over Europe. I wonder what gives.

Isn't allowed by whom exactly? Simply allow immigrants to vote. Have no work permits, thus working as cheap labor? Give them permits. It's appalling how people pretend that they don't have anything against immigrants but they are against illegal immigrants as if the paperwork for legal work is a natural phenomenon and they can't do anything about it.

> Isn't allowed by whom exactly?

To be clear, as suggested by the rest of your comment, it is currently not allowed due to various political reasons. Nobody is arguing ideal situations, only reality.

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by olivermarks »

mrtksn wrote: post #38
raverbashing wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your haven't seen them because you've kept to places where they don't exist Hospitality workers are usually sink or swim. You won't find many people but hard workers there (local or immigrants) Now of course this ignores the ones that don't work and the cultural clashes that happen with lots of immigrants Framing everything as "immigration good/bad" is of course the main issue, it's like saying you fix obesity with e…

See, my exposure is not limited to hospitality because after work I didn’t go to my house in Chelsea. The first few weeks I went to my hostel in Isle of Dogs, Camden and Seven Sisters. Then I a went to my house share in Brixton, Peckham, Kilburn and Lewisham. I changed a lot of places because hostels have 1 week limit and renting is pain in the ars due to catch 22 on proof of address. I met very large number of peopl…

Where did the word 'lazy' come from? Or the suggestion immigrants 'don't work'? My comment was about the scale of immigration into the EU/UK (particularly from sub Saharan Africa where Mo Farah/Hussein Abdi Kahin originated).

Ask any immigrant community whether southern Sweden, UK, US wherever about the criminal underworld and you will hear plenty of 'colourful' stories, not least immensely lucrative traffics and smuggling. A lot of hard working illegal immigrants are exploited by these unsavoury types.

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by yunohn »

olivermarks wrote: post #3

Illegal immigration into the UK from the third world is far greater now than it was in the era of Mo Farah's childhood. I have to wonder how the UK social construct can survive with the huge numbers of people entering given the lack of housing, water, food etc https://youtu.be/PAeRejE467g

> Illegal immigration into the UK from the third world

Ironic, given the UK’s history of illegally colonising and creating a “third world” from their exploitation.

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by olivermarks »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #37
raverbashing wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your haven't seen them because you've kept to places where they don't exist Hospitality workers are usually sink or swim. You won't find many people but hard workers there (local or immigrants) Now of course this ignores the ones that don't work and the cultural clashes that happen with lots of immigrants Framing everything as "immigration good/bad" is of course the main issue, it's like saying you fix obesity with e…

#NoTrueExperienceWithImmigrants

At least you're honest with your comment.

Re: Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked into the UK using another child’s name

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Post by mrtksn »

aikah wrote: post #44
mrtksn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most immigrants are economically very active since starting a new life from zero requires that. Unless you can't physically fit people in the island, the solution would be to let the immigrants work legally. Number of houses are not fixed like the total number of bitcoins, people can build new ones. Despite the political rhetoric and recent trends, immigration is a good thing and the problems it causes can be reduced…

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Nope. Gotta pay the rent and buy food. No pimps unless you are a prostitute.

There’s no slave debt, it cost a few grands to get somewhere illegally and most people pay that through the money from friends and family and savings.

Once in UK or another rich country you work crazy hours and you make that money back in a month or two. After that you start looking how to improve your own situation and make it worth.

UK or EU is not Dubai, no one takes your passport and make you work like a slave. There are some fringe cases but it’s not how it work for the millions of immigrants.

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