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Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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No no no.. for Lion's Mane, you want only the mycelium. How do you grow it in liquid such that 100% of the mycelium is available? Growing on grain ruins the cost-efficiency of the product.

There's a reason Ben's Original (Uncle Ben's) is big in the mushroom community. - Pre sterilized - Cost effective - Easy to monitor

https://old.reddit.com/r/unclebens

Such genius simplicity. I've grown once in mason jars with rice flour, and once in uncle Ben's. Ben was such an improvement

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#163

This is a fruiting chamber, not a mushroom growing device. Fruiting is by far the most trivial part of mushroom growing. You still need to sterilize a growth media, innoculate it with spores or mycelium, grow it out without contamination, and mix into a substrate long before it enters this device. Or buy their overpriced pre-packaged, pre-grown substrates. As a fruiting chamber, it does nothing that a $2 plastic Ster…

>This is a fruiting chamber, not a mushroom growing device. Fruiting is by far the most trivial part of mushroom growing. You've hit on exactly the value being provided here - they are handling the culture, inoculation, spawning, and colonization stages and selling you an expensive box to put the result in. Sometimes people just want a quick fun activity and they don't want to research it beforehand. This product fil…

$300 fancy plastic box for humidity and heat control. And shrooms sold separately. Some rich family will get it for their kids to use it once.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#164
I know close to nothing about growing mushrooms, aside from doing those kits once or twice where they grow out of the sides of the bag. I couldn't stand the marketing vid. Looks like a scam.

"Harvest at home with zero effort" I highly doubt it's _zero_ effort

"Gives you the highest quality food without GMO, chemicals, or waste..." the _biggest_ eyeroll ever

"Just order our ready to go blocks" so much for no waste

I'll stick with the $10 bag you cut holes in the side of

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#165
post #81

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This thing looks extremely rough when examining pictures and video at highest resolution available. Take a look at the left edge of the display cut out, as an example: https://i.imgur.com/ttZZhwa.png This hobbyist level of machining does not go very well with the slick design and marketing.

It's a prototype, so not necessarily indicative of the final finish. That looks like it's been cut by a craft knife, which is unlikely to be the final manufacturing process.

This doesn't even look like a prototype, it looks like a foamboard mockup

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#166
post #25

as a home mushroom cultivator I can tell you that this device is pretty much the Juicero of the mushroom world. from what i'm reading this device accomplishes nothing that one can't do with a homemade monotub composed of a 32 quart storage tote, a spray bottle and some polyfill. if you are interested in growing edible gourmet mushrooms look up a local mushroom farm in your area, most of them sell blocks that you can…

There is a lot of effort in those simple words though. Based on my experience—

1) Sterilize the substrate/polyfill. This is not trivial. I personally use a bag set in a hot water bath with a sous vide heater.

2) Use food grade buckets and make evenly spaced holes in them. Sterilize those buckets.

3) Prepare the buckets by layering substrate and then a layer of the inoculated material. This is not easy, everything needs to be sterile.

4) Manually spray them down every other day.

5) Control the light. Needs to be dark initially during propagation and then some light so the mushrooms know to grow out.

That’s a lot of work. It’s like saying anyone can just set up rsync, what’s the big deal with Dropbox.

That being said, it’s silly to buy these preseeded boxes. It’s going to be super expensive and your harvest is going to be tiny. Much cheaper to just buy the mushrooms at the store.

The only thing this makes sense for is super rare strains of mushrooms (if they can grow morels I’m sold) and of course psilocybin.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#167
post #99

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Because that's a fake recipe that was written just to rack up page views, that wouldn't actually work at all if you tried it. Making crab cakes isn't going to work at all unless you sweat the mushrooms to get the water out -- you cook them for 20+ min on low with a lot of sea salt, and then you rinse off the salt and squeeze out as much water as you can before forming them into crab cakes and pan frying.

https://foragerchef.com/hericium-crabcakes/ Okay, is this one better? It still only calls for 16oz of mushrooms to make 4-6 cakes. I can't find a single recipe that calls for anywhere near 10lbs of fungus. Could you link one?

If you look at the different photos in that recipe, you can see that the one on the tree has several times more water than the one purchased from the store. So which '16 oz' is it even referring to?

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#168

This is a fruiting chamber, not a mushroom growing device. Fruiting is by far the most trivial part of mushroom growing. You still need to sterilize a growth media, innoculate it with spores or mycelium, grow it out without contamination, and mix into a substrate long before it enters this device. Or buy their overpriced pre-packaged, pre-grown substrates. As a fruiting chamber, it does nothing that a $2 plastic Ster…

>This is a fruiting chamber, not a mushroom growing device. Fruiting is by far the most trivial part of mushroom growing. You've hit on exactly the value being provided here - they are handling the culture, inoculation, spawning, and colonization stages and selling you an expensive box to put the result in. Sometimes people just want a quick fun activity and they don't want to research it beforehand. This product fil…

I can go buy $10 kits (pre-innoculated block) that fruits in a few days from the local farmers market. $20 on Etsy.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#169
post #4

OK, so the real question - which ones from the list are psilocybin mushrooms?

I believe one would get the DIY block and inoculate with psilocybe cubensis

If you're going through the effort to DIY a block, you have no need for a machine like this

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

#170
post #25

as a home mushroom cultivator I can tell you that this device is pretty much the Juicero of the mushroom world. from what i'm reading this device accomplishes nothing that one can't do with a homemade monotub composed of a 32 quart storage tote, a spray bottle and some polyfill. if you are interested in growing edible gourmet mushrooms look up a local mushroom farm in your area, most of them sell blocks that you can…

There is a lot of effort in those simple words though. Based on my experience— 1) Sterilize the substrate/polyfill. This is not trivial. I personally use a bag set in a hot water bath with a sous vide heater. 2) Use food grade buckets and make evenly spaced holes in them. Sterilize those buckets. 3) Prepare the buckets by layering substrate and then a layer of the inoculated material. This is not easy, everything nee…

A tip: sous vide is guaranteed not to get hot enough to kill eg Botulinum nor many kinds of spores, because the heat conductor is liquid water.

Pressure cooker (modern teks use Instant Pot) will achieve the necessary thermal properties because they produce superheated steam.

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