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Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by executesorder66 »

xdennis wrote: post #167
frameset wrote: post #134

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Other commenters have pointed out that the lack of a self replacing auto-updater in a modern desktop app is striking to put it mildly. It has a pretty bad UI, that seems to be getting worse especially with regard to the shades of grey. If you bring up these flaws the maintainer can react quite poorly, even when the subject is broached politely and in good faith. And to add my complaints to those of other commenters,…

Seems like a feature. Packages shouldn't update themselves. That's what package managers are for.

Calibre is cross-platform, and windows is about 40 years behind when it comes to software distribution best practices. Windows users don't realize that their OS is the problem, and expect all software developers to work around their OS's retarded idiosyncrasies.

Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by executesorder66 »

vzaliva wrote: post #135

I love Calibre but "sudo && wget | sh" installation on Linux makes me cringe. I wish there is an apk or snap.

I mean, you could just install it from your package manager like a normal person. Those instructions are for when your are on some some obscure distro that doesn't package it, but you still want some way of getting it on your system.

Edit: I know on the download page it says "Please do not use your distribution provided calibre package, as those are often buggy/outdated. Instead use the Binary install described below."

But that is bad advice. If you want a recent package, then use a distro that frequently updates it's packages. Most people using distros with ancient packages, (Debian, Slackware) _want_ it that way!

Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by Chris2048 »

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #170
Chris2048 wrote: post #165

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I'm sensitive to the tactic of insulting people for pointing out inconvenient facts, namely that this action was taken - which got my accused of "projection" i.e. I am projecting my own childishness, based on zero evidence. Saying I'm "extremely sensitive" is another way of distracting from the point. The decision was not negligible as far as I believe, but if you'd like to have a constructive discussion of that , ra…

The onus is on you to demonstrate why it’s not negligible, besides demonstrating your ability to take offense more readily than most. Look, I’m not the person that insulted you, but I’m sorry this happened to you if it means you’ll reevaluate your perspective of this discussion.

Stating that you are sorry, while continuing with the "easily offended" spiel doesn't project sincerity.

Let me be clear - I don't agree with your perspective, either on how offended you think I am or should be, (or how relevant it is to this thread outside purposeful trolling, with personal attacks) or how negligible the naming issue is. The onus is on you to substantiate these judgements.

Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by WorldMaker »

akho wrote: post #102
swozey wrote: post #82

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They may be "files" but I have thousands of them on my devices. And there is no way in the world I'm managing that through Kindles interface.

I only read 60-80 books a year, maybe 40-60 on a Kindle. I guess I need to take up some sport to live long enough to reach your numbers (and to stop deleting things). Even including an occasional article, 'thousands' is very impressive.

My worst habits are largely (TT)RPG manuals. I've got a huge collection from DTRPG especially. Sometimes one RPG purchase will have ten/twenty PDF files inside it (player's guides, GM guides, adventures/modules, etc). (Not to mention the combinatorial explosion if you ever talk yourself into a big sales bundle or two.) There's a bunch of weird reasons to keep them around "read" or not, and make them searchable if I need to look something up or am trying to remember a detail. Syncing some of them to my kindles or to other tablet devices from time to time can be handy for portable retrieval (or on the go skimming). I eventually realized my Books folders were huge and unmanageable even with a detailed folder structure and have been happy with moving that all to Calibre with better tags and metadata management.

Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by WorldMaker »

executesorder66 wrote: post #181
xdennis wrote: post #167

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Seems like a feature. Packages shouldn't update themselves. That's what package managers are for.

Calibre is cross-platform, and windows is about 40 years behind when it comes to software distribution best practices. Windows users don't realize that their OS is the problem, and expect all software developers to work around their OS's retarded idiosyncrasies.

Windows added a package manager with active auto-updates in Windows 8 called the Windows/Microsoft Store. It has supported non-sandboxed installers since a year into Windows 10 (the "Anniversary Update"). Late in Windows 10/11 they added a useful CLI tool for it ("winget") and a bit more than just the Store. Around the same time the Store also added support for "update feeds" other than ones that the Store directly manages.

(If anyone recalls old .NET "One Click" updaters, where you can just dump new versions into the right folder structure at a URL and the updater does the work of checking for new versions, the Store can now check similar folder structures if you'd prefer that way to manage updates instead of uploading updates directly to the Store.)

I think its more Developers don't realize their distrust of the OS is the problem today. Users are mostly happy with the Store, when they can find things on it. It is Developers that still don't like putting things on it, or have weird distrust issues with the Store, which is the issue now.

Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by berkes »

mitchdoogle wrote: post #145
berkes wrote: post #52

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So "it's job is not well defined". It's a webserver, file manager, sync client, transcoder/converter, RSS reader, metadata manager all in one. With all possible regards and respect to the author, I find calibre a terrible mess. It does a lot of things, none of which very well. And the one thing that I want it to do, it doesn't. Not reliable or not at all. I want it to give me access to the ebooks I buy online. This i…

It's job is to manage your digital library of books. Are you upset that it has too many features? I just don't understand why you're debating. If you don't need it, then don't use it.

I do need it. But what I prefer is something simpler that does one job and does it well.

That exists, proprietary. In floss it exists for CLI only.

I'm upset that it keeps accumulating features. I understand why. I understand others need those features. But what upsets me is that this "eats" a lot of energy, which now isn't spent on simpler, easier, cleaner or friendlier FLOSS alternatives. I spend that time. On tools for ebooks that I opensourced.

But alas, the most common response to my efforts is people telling me that I should instead spend that time and effort building additions for calibre rather than trying to gain traction on some alternatives. The same most common response people working on e.g. Krita face: wasted time, improve Gimp instead.

Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by [deleted] »

mattkevan wrote: post #79
NonNefarious wrote: post #30

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I want to sync the whole thing. Apple Books ineptly forces you to manually copy all of the books themselves to each device, but then syncs collections that you've set up to organize them.

No it doesn’t. If you use Books with iCloud any book you add on any device will be automatically synced with the others. Works really well.

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Re: New in Calibre 6.0

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Post by BarbaPeru »

berkes wrote: post #187
mitchdoogle wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's job is to manage your digital library of books. Are you upset that it has too many features? I just don't understand why you're debating. If you don't need it, then don't use it.

I do need it. But what I prefer is something simpler that does one job and does it well. That exists, proprietary. In floss it exists for CLI only. I'm upset that it keeps accumulating features. I understand why. I understand others need those features. But what upsets me is that this "eats" a lot of energy, which now isn't spent on simpler, easier, cleaner or friendlier FLOSS alternatives. I spend that time. On tool…

Some link to both proprietary and FOSS alternatives?

Thanks, Pietro.

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