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Re: Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security

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Actually Web Push is coming in iOS 16.

It's not in the release...

Well iOS 16 is still in developer preview and it won't be launched for another 3 months almost, so it might not be in the currently released versions. But here: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/06/ios-16-support-web-push...

Re: Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security

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That one doesn't really have a substantive response either. Just as an example: do you believe web apps are currently treated by apple in a lower tier than native apps? if so, do you think they should be n-class citizens, where n is the same class as native ios apps? if you do not, then I can see why you do not personally want the things that come with it, like your other conversation partner said

> Just as an example: do you believe web apps are currently treated by apple in a lower tier than native apps? Does this have anything to do with anything I said in my thread? No. So, this question is not in good faith, so why should I engage with it? > if so, do you think Do you think that ascribing thoughts and words to your opponent that your opponent never thought or said is a good argument? It doesn't matter wha…

>Does this have anything to do with anything I said in my thread? No. So, this question is not in good faith, so why should I engage with it?

You clearly don't understand what "good faith" is, and certainly are not an unbiased judge of it, being 1 of the 2 people involved in the accusation. It means asking because you are legitimately interested in the answer. It does not mean "I, as self-appointed judge of this discussion, unilaterally deem your question irrelevant". Indeed, if the question and answer are actually irrelevant, you can trust the smart posters here to be the judge of that, so you need not fear answering truthfully and candidly.

In any case, _I_ am legitimately interested in the answer, but even without my admission, you are supposed to assume good faith on this forum (HN), versus your current, combative, antagonistic, almost litigious (OBJECTION, RELEVANCE! SUSTAINED, I RULE IN MY OWN FAVOR!) attitude towards your fellow posters.

Re: Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security

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It’s hard to take comments from someone who doesn’t believe in the Web or Web Apps seriously. If you start from a position that Web Apps should not be able to compete on mobile devices, then our viewpoints are so diametrically opposed there’s really nothing to argue about. OWA was formed to ensure that mobile Web Apps become viable, if you disagree with that as the premise, all the best.

> It’s hard to take comments from someone who doesn’t believe in the Web or Web Apps seriously. Ad hominem is not as good as argument as you want it to be. > If you start from a position that Web Apps should not be able to compete on mobile devices If you start with ascribing thoughts and words to your opponent that your opponent never thought or said, you're not arguing in good faith. > OWA was formed to ensure that…

>Ad hominem is not as good as argument as you want it to be.

you are the one who called him a google shill.

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